IMMIGRATION thread

**Gilrandir** · 06-20-2016, 08:45

Originally Posted by Husar

I don't care too much about what he says though, he's an old man from a conservative party and he's not the Chancellor.

If similar messages were heard from someone of Ukrainian political "elite" the attitude here would be rather different, now would it? But if it is an old conservative German gaffer, it is pardonable, isn't it? It tarnishes the reputation of his boss in no way, does it?

**Fragony** · 06-20-2016, 09:17

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

If similar messages were heard from someone of Ukrainian political "elite" the attitude here would be rather different, now would it?

Rest assured, it's getting no attention at all. If the political elite in Ukraine said that all who think differently should be skinned alive with a ball in their mouth it 'quality media' will ignore that as well, they live from advertisements of companies that recieve free EU money

You Ukrainens should think this over so hard, you are making yourself a proxy-zone, be glad we Dutchies a(not our current gornment) aree there as we don't want that, but they have to listen first and they probably won't. The stop of the association-treaty would be the best news you ever got.

**Gilrandir** · 06-20-2016, 10:48

Originally Posted by Fragony

Rest assured, it's getting no attention at all. If the political elite in Ukraine said that all who think differently should be skinned alive with a ball in their mouth it 'quality media' will ignore that as well, they live from advertisements of companies that recieve free EU money

I meant not in the press, but on these boards.

Originally Posted by Fragony

we Dutchies a(not our current gornment) aree there as we don't want that

You present your personal opinion as the one of the whole nation.

Originally Posted by Fragony

The stop of the association-treaty would be the best news you ever got.

An arbitrary statement.

**Fragony** · 06-20-2016, 12:29

The opinion of the ones who voted only, a shame it will be inored probably

**Viking** · 06-20-2016, 13:34

If avoiding inbreeding is a goal, one would need to strip the culture and religion from the new arrivals, or one would end up with separate groups 'inbreeding' in parallel.

**Pannonian** · 06-20-2016, 14:33

Originally Posted by Viking

If avoiding inbreeding is a goal, one would need to strip the culture and religion from the new arrivals, or one would end up with separate groups 'inbreeding' in parallel.

In one discussion I've seen on the topic, based admittedly on a European anthropologist's study, Muslims described their own culture as "endogamous", ie. marrying within their group, whereas Europeans were "exogamous", ie. marrying outside their group. If the aim is to avoid inbreeding, looking to other European/Europeanised countries would seem a better bet. London and New York would be particularly good places to look.

**Husar** · 06-20-2016, 22:20

Originally Posted by Pannonian

In one discussion I've seen on the topic, based admittedly on a European anthropologist's study, Muslims described their own culture as "endogamous", ie. marrying within their group, whereas Europeans were "exogamous", ie. marrying outside their group. If the aim is to avoid inbreeding, looking to other European/Europeanised countries would seem a better bet. London and New York would be particularly good places to look.

Too expensive if it's not in the EU. Might as well go for a South American then, or Japanophile.
Whatever makes us die out faster.