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    Default Re: The Blackmail of Merkel by Erdogan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    He was raided by the police over nothing worse than ascribing to an ideology the state deems dengerous, if it had been a certain other ideology I'd dare say we'd never hear the end of it.

    He broke the law and was arrested for it, how is that mistreatment?
    Did you notice Anjem Chouidray finally got properly busted, they had raided him again and again , finally they could prove that he was breaking the law.
    Did you hear anyone complain about it? Did you hear lots of people express the thought "about bloody time"

    I would consider anyone who could easily spot them wouldnt need to be protected from wrong-think.
    Since you couldn't spot them at all does that mean you need protection?
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    Talk abouf a poor example, nobody knew about nuclair bombs. Sexism in muslim culture and terrugha-mobs of amateur-gaenacogists acting like hyena's, encircling, striking, is wellknown though

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    Default Re: The Blackmail of Merkel by Erdogan.

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    Talk abouf a poor example, nobody knew about nuclair bombs. Sexism in muslim culture and terrugha-mobs of amateur-gaenacogists acting like hyena's, encircling, striking, is wellknown though
    I realize that "The Queen's" is not your first language, and my knowledge of Dutch is execrable, but this was NOT your best effort at a clear post.
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    It's pretty simple, Japan didn't know about atomic but Germany knows what they are importing

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    Terrible example because that was completely unexpected in terms of size and organization, it's a bit like saying the japanese should have built Hiroshima with nuclear bomb defense structures in mind.
    The German police prevented 9 or more islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11, don't tell me they're ignoring problems.
    They've also been talking about other problems but people tend to ignore that in favor of budget cuts until something actually happens.
    Don't tell me it's much different elsewhere or with other issue because I sort of have a list...
    Husar my problem is not that they're preempting it as much as the difference in proportion of response: all the examples you give of muslims the police confront are high damage terror plots but when it comes to lesser matters the response developes a double standard. Producing the bizzare scenario where Nationalists are reviled en mass, dealt with such strictness that a man has his property siezed for posting provocative pictures on the internet but 2000 muslim men partake in mass molestation and rape in the streets and the german government's highest priority is to avoid a backlash against the group that produced and harbours them. It makes it seem that a Muslim must be encouraging terrorism to recieve the same scrutiny that a german nationalist gathers just by shitposting.

    This drive to protect one compared to the eagerness to oppress the other being especially exhasperating when the core ideologies of both are equally rehensible, equally hostile and islam is currently much more prone to violence.

    But news articles don't prove anything, we need primary sources before we can believe it.
    You realy need to learn the difference between events, trends, news and opinion. Maybe then your attempts to use my arguments against me might actually work.
    The guy himself played the victim in the video but what else would he do? Talk about all the terrible things he did to deserve that?
    The article said the raids were "targeting people suspected of posting hate content on social media" which puts the limit of the "terrible things he did to deserve that" somewhat low and going by the recent german trend towards overreaction in that field, his claims towards innocuity become a lot more believable.
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    Default Re: The Blackmail of Merkel by Erdogan.

    Producing the bizzare scenario where Nationalists are reviled en mass, dealt with such strictness that a man has his property siezed for posting provocative pictures on the internet
    What is bizzare about siezing evidence?

    It makes it seem that a Muslim must be encouraging terrorism to recieve the same scrutiny that a german nationalist gathers just by shitposting.
    How many of them have now been arrested? didn't the germans even track people to other countries to arrest them for the new years eve crimes.

    The article said the raids were "targeting people suspected of posting hate content on social media" which puts the limit of the "terrible things he did to deserve that" somewhat low and going by the recent german trend towards overreaction in that field, his claims towards innocuity become a lot more believable.
    Jesus wept the German authorities upped their level of monitoring of these Greater Deutchland groups after death threats had been posted. The annual report from the defenders of the constitution on their monitoring runs to about 70 pages on far right threats, it has about 70 pages on the extreme left, it has about 80 on Islamists and 50 pages on other external groups present in Germany
    Why are you defending that neo nazi scumbag?

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    Default Re: The Blackmail of Merkel by Erdogan.

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    2000 muslim men partake in mass molestation and rape in the streets
    I thought it would've grown to 10000 and virgin sacrifices by now. You can't even depend on internet fascists any more, what is the world coming to...

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    I thought it would've grown to 10000 and virgin sacrifices by now. You can't even depend on internet fascists any more, what is the world coming to...
    Feel free to look it up, that's just Keulen by the way. You can also easily find what the German police union has to say about it, comes down to 'we are simply not allowed to do our job'. The German police have to be figurants in the theatre of the childless mutti's barren womb.

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