Thanks US marines!

[Fragony]

Huge massacre prevented, I often take that train to Paris. A person who has culture had 9 mags so this could have turned out really badly. Thanks for being this sharp guys

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34023361

[Kadagar_AV]

You are the worst thread starter ever...



But so people don't have to guess, Frags is talking about the train-shootings in France.

And hell yes, seems like some USMC guys overmanned the shooter and saved countless lives... My dad used to take the same train weekly, so it'll be buying the next USMC I meet a shot on me :)

[wooly_mammoth]

So, how does a random guy end up walking around with an AK-47, revolver, combat knife and enough ammo to shoot a whole train?

[Kadagar_AV]

So, how does a random guy end up walking around with an AK-47, revolver, combat knife and enough ammo to shoot a whole train?

Guess?

Also, let's call the shooter "a/the muslim" instead of "a random guy". There's nothing random about it.

[Fragony]

So, how does a random guy end up walking around with an AK-47, revolver, combat knife and enough ammo to shoot a whole train?

Well, putting it in a bag, and taking it out of the bag

[Kadagar_AV]

Watching the interview with the one soldier not in hospital, and 2 others who helped, it reminded me of this scene...

[rickinator9]

I think we are pretty fortunate this is the first time someone has tried to massacre a train. In the Netherlands, where I live, nobody checks the trains for gun-wielding people like this guy. It must be very easy to just board a train with a couple of guns and shoot everyone up.

Good job on the marines being there and acting, since this could have ended much worse.

[Greyblades]

Guns are new but there have been a couple of train bombings during 7/7.

[Hooahguy]

Actually it wasnt US Marines, it was a member of the US Air Force and the National Guard. Plus another civilian.

[Husar]

I think we are pretty fortunate this is the first time someone has tried to massacre a train. In the Netherlands, where I live, nobody checks the trains for gun-wielding people like this guy. It must be very easy to just board a train with a couple of guns and shoot everyone up.

The same is true for roads. There should be people checking people when they leave their homes.

Actually it wasnt US Marines, it was a member of the US Air Force and the National Guard. Plus another civilian.

That's what I read. I assume some people turn every hero into a marine because "Es muss sein!"
But good job stopping that terrorist either way!

[Pannonian]

Actually it wasnt US Marines, it was a member of the US Air Force and the National Guard. Plus another civilian.

Predictable combination job. The air force alone can't do the job, you need boots on the ground as well, plus civilian skillsets for the reconstruction.

[Beskar]

Watching the interview with the one soldier not in hospital, and 2 others who helped, it reminded me of this scene...

Reminds me of a more politically correct version of Team Americans "dicks, pussies and assholes" speech.

[Kadagar_AV]

Reminds me of a more politically correct version of Team Americans "dicks, pussies and assholes" speech.

Elaborate?

[Viking]

That's what I read. I assume some people turn every hero into a marine because "Es muss sein!"
But good job stopping that terrorist either way!

At least they weren't rumoured to be Navy SEALs.

[Hooahguy]

At least they weren't rumoured to be Navy SEALs.

If they were then there would be three books out already, and each of them would be contradicting one another. Then a movie or two would be made.

[Hooahguy]

Ayoub El-Khazzani, the man suspected of attempting a massacre on a French train, is "dumbfounded" that he is being accused of terrorism and claims he found the AK-47 assault rifle "by chance"

[Husar]

Haha, creative defense after he stabbed a guy and shot another one.

I assume he won't get away with it though.

[Vuk]

500 French they said. What were they doing? 500 French men, three Americans, and one Brit. The Americans and Brits all charge, and the French...stand in fear?...run in fear? What?

[Fragony]

Well it could be true, there is a lively trade in AK's in Brussels and they are often dropped in parks to be picked up. Having nine mags kinda makes it, well.... kinda kinda....

[Brenus]

"three Americans, and one Brit." Deleted. Not worth of an answer.

[Vuk]

"three Americans, and one Brit." Deleted. Not worth of an answer.

Kisses, little pussy cat babydoll?

[Hooahguy]

500 French they said. What were they doing? 500 French men, three Americans, and one Brit. The Americans and Brits all charge, and the French...stand in fear?...run in fear? What?

To be fair, it was on a train, and Ive been on that kind of train before on the same railway line and the bathrooms are in the back of each car as I remember. According to the report, a Frenchman first struggled with the terrorist when he tried to enter the bathroom, and then the gun went off, injuring the Frenchman, and alerted the others to the danger.

[Vuk]

What Brenus didn't seem to realize is that it was a serious question. None of the articles talk about what the French were doing. I really wanna know how they reacted. That is the first I heard of action on behalf of the French.

[Brenus]

"Kisses, little pussy cat babydoll?" I went in 3 wars, was injured in 1. How many for you?

[Montmorency]

Actually, the articles do talk about how the French reacted. A Frenchman and a French-American were the first to fight the gunman. They were wounded. A French actor in an adjoining car cut his hand badly while activating the emergency brake during the fistfight, after which he moved to protect his partner and children. The French train employees fled into the engine car and locked themselves in as soon as the gunman first revealed himself.

Also, there were about 500 people on the entire train. I don't think you are one of those who believe in monogender or gender neutrality. And speaking of cars, trains are subdivided into cars, meaning that most of the people who were capable of resisting at the scene did in fact resist, assuming there were not more than say 50 people in the one car.

[Brenus]

"Actually, the articles do talk about how the French reacted. A Frenchman and a French-American were the first to fight the gunman. They were wounded. A French actor in an adjoining car cut his hand badly while activating the emergency brake during the fistfight, after which he moved to protect his partner and children. " Don't bother. He is not interested in truth or reality, only by his prejudices. "500 people" in a car gives you an inside of his process of what could be link with thinking...

[Fragony]

To be fair, it was on a train, and Ive been on that kind of train before on the same railway line and the bathrooms are in the back of each car as I remember. According to the report, a Frenchman first struggled with the terrorist when he tried to enter the bathroom, and then the gun went off, injuring the Frenchman, and alerted the others to the danger.

Not each, every three or so. I always take the Thalys if I go to Paris as I am afraid of hights, so I don't fly.

[Kadagar_AV]

500 French they said. What were they doing? 500 French men, three Americans, and one Brit. The Americans and Brits all charge, and the French...stand in fear?...run in fear? What?

Well, the french personnel on the train did act, they locked themselves into their lunch-room.

From what I have heard there is not a single report of any train personnel doing even one thing.

Hey, the heroes even clearly state the train personnel ran past them without even warning.

With that said, I feel this is hard on the French... They are more multicultural than most, and this is low wage jobs... Odds are the train personnel was of the same nation as the damn shooter.

"three Americans, and one Brit." Deleted. Not worth of an answer.

Actually it is... Cultures DO exist. You can shy away from it all you want, but that's life

America and the Brits has obviously fostered a culture where they even abroad don't hesitate to run towards a guy with an assault rifle. That takes a LOT of "well meaning for the betterment of mankind", so to say.

The first guy who ran (the one still in hospital) was 100% surely sure he would be injured or killed, but it was worth it for him, as otherwise more people would come to harm.

You DO NOT, I repeat, you do NOT run towards a guy with an assault rifle and knife out to kill expecting not to be hurt, badly damaged, or killed. However, if 3 people run towards, it saves as many lives as the terrorist has time and ammunition and means for.

I do not think I can ever be accused of being an US fan boy... But let's face it, they have at least done SOMETHING right.

"Kisses, little pussy cat babydoll?" I went in 3 wars, was injured in 1. How many for you?

I can only answer for me, but... Enough.

With that said we still need people who run towards danger instead of away from danger.





Vuk actually brings up a point... I always wondered why people flee like cattle when faced with violence. I can honestly say my reaction would have been the same as Spencers, sometimes you have to take one for the team.

*and he did it ABROAD*

Violence must be FOUGHT, not shied away from.


Stupid cattle, if at least they could vote right we wouldn't have as much problems with predators :(

[Brenus]

All what Vuk and you wrote is crap and you know it.

And that why the 3 US and 1 GB (one of them being half French apparently, but is now only US or Brits) are heroes.

"America and the Brits has obviously fostered a culture where they even abroad don't hesitate to run towards a guy with an assault rifle." So stupid comment, no need to dig... Like in Tunisia and in USA you mean?

"A Frenchman and a French-American were the first to fight the gunman. They were wounded." Do you know to read, or you prejudices make you jump the line?
Didn't notice during the Tunis massacre that Vuk or you saying the dead from UK were cowards as none of the British in holidays tried to stop the killer, nor when some lunatic in USA open fire in schools or super markets, the public reaction is to escape.
This is apparently reserved to French. So it b**** S****.

And until Vuk displays his of course impressive actions during war time I will not consider his prejudices as valid. To have completed the entire Call of Duty series is not having completed your Tour of Duty.

And to be frank, even if Vuk or you were the most impressive warriors of all the time, that still won't allow you to judge any person fleeing a killer, French or not.
The stupidity to assume than in a train going from Brussels to Paris was full of only 3 USA, 1 British and all the rest being French is absolute.
The stupidity to even assume that every one was aware of what happen is absolute.
The stupidity to assume that courage is due to nationality is absolute.

[Vuk]

With all due respect Brenus (and your replies garner little), what does it matter if I have fought in a war or not??
Does that mean that I cannot look at facts and arrive at correct conclusions? Is logic something mystically handed down to you by Odin in the midst of combat?
Don't tell me that I do not have a right to an opinion because you disagree. What can I say...that is very French of you. "That person disagrees with us! Send them to the guillotine!"

Of course there are people who have served and have not served who arrive at each of our conclusions, so your point is invalid.

Yes, people will run from danger in every Country (as the US becomes more like France and feminizes and disarms, it happens here even more), but a crew who is tasked with the safety of the passengers would never have ran without alerting someone in the US.

It still stands that there were many more French than Americans and the percentage of Americans who responded to the percentage of French who responded speaks hugely about the culture of the two countries.

Frances entire history in the last 100 years backs this point up even more.