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The classiest presidential candidate ever!
So, who's going to get elected?
If debate performance is any indication, him.
Originally Posted by Greyblades:
If debate performance is any indication, him.
Rise of the floppy hair blondes. First Trump, then Boris Johnson 2020, you know it will be true.If debate performance is any indication, him.
We are in the end of days.
Originally Posted by Hooahguy:
We are in the end of days.
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Well, we complained, and God answered. We are in the end of days.
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Originally Posted by Hooahguy:
We are in the end of days.
We are in the end of days.
Oh god, if Trump running wasn't terrifying enough.
Originally Posted by drone:
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In his house at Manhattan Donald Trump's Hair lies dreaming?*snip*
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I get the feeling that this guy is isolated in a world of business where business people treat him nicely whether they like him or not.
I get the feeling that this guy is isolated in a world of business where business people treat him nicely whether they like him or not.
Donald Trump went bankrupt and got forgiven his debts. He came back stronger than ever, in part because he was allowed to. I hope he realizes that it won't work like that if he bankrupts America.
To be fair that was his companies that went bankrupt, not him personally and they keep coming back from it.
And with strange aeons even hair may die."
Originally Posted by rajpoot:
In his house at Manhattan Donald Trump's Hair lies dreaming?
"That is not bald which can eternal lie,In his house at Manhattan Donald Trump's Hair lies dreaming?
And with strange aeons even hair may die."
So seems Trumps out ahead in the early States - god damn the US system is corrupt.
The lack of consistency and the fact that States declare one after another.
The lack of consistency and the fact that States declare one after another.
Last I checked, he was only ahead of the other GOP candidates. Hillary is still beating him handily.
The republicans own both houses and the supreme court, even after the debt ceiling and Iran deal fiasco. There is absolutely nothing cetain to be said about the next year's events.
Doesn't matter though, either win screws America for four years the only difference is which flavour of suck.
Doesn't matter though, either win screws America for four years the only difference is which flavour of suck.
Originally Posted by Hooahguy:
Last I checked, he was only ahead of the other GOP candidates. Hillary is still beating him handily.
Assuming Hilary wins the Dem nomination.Last I checked, he was only ahead of the other GOP candidates. Hillary is still beating him handily.
As someone closely associated with both Clinton and Obama she has, I would think, quite a lot counting against her.
The whole proposal is weird - what do you do with Bill Clinton while she's President? Send him on a four-year world tour? It would be very easy for any GOP candidate to attack her as basically a stalking horse to get her husband back into the White House because while he can hide whilst she's Obama's Secretary of State it's very hard to keep him away from the cameras and avoid photo ops of him in, say the Rose Garden, or on the White House Lawn.
There's also the fact that Bill Clinton is, hands down, a more charismatic and commanding presence than his wife.
Originally Posted by Greyblades:
The republicans own both houses and the supreme court, even after the debt ceiling and Iran deal fiasco. There is absolutely nothing cetain to be said about the next year's events.
It's in the math. The GOP owns both houses due to gerrymandering the House districts and the rural states equality in the Senate, the popular vote is against them nationwide. The only hope they have for the White House is to keep/improve the white vote from 2012 AND significantly increase the Latino vote, which Trump is doing a good job of alienating. The GOP leadership knows this, he will either be marginalized when the primaries start, or the GOP is about to waste a lot of money on a lost cause.The republicans own both houses and the supreme court, even after the debt ceiling and Iran deal fiasco. There is absolutely nothing cetain to be said about the next year's events.
Nobody is ahead of anybody right now, the first real voting happens in February.
Originally Posted by Greyblades:
Doesn't matter though, either win screws America for four years the only difference is which flavour of suck.
That goes without saying... Doesn't matter though, either win screws America for four years the only difference is which flavour of suck.
I actually think that the GOP gaining both houses in the last mid term election was a terrible thing for the GOP. Now that they are in control of both houses, they really dont have much of an excuse as to why things arent getting done. When the Democrats had control of the Senate, the GOP could just blame it on them, but now that they actually have to do stuff, they dont really have many more excuses and the polls will reflect that in the coming elections. Sure, they can just blame it on Obama as per usual, but Obamas approval rating is around 46% (Gallup) which isnt terrible considering thats almost half, while congressional approval rating is much, much lower, currently at around 14%.
There is some proof for this in the fact that in a number of states where they voted out Democrats, they also voted for progressive ballot measures.
When approval rating is that low, I doubt that people are going to want the same people in office. Now, this isnt guaranteeing a Democratic victory this election; it might take another cycle to see the colors change, but I would bet on the fact that the recent GOP victory will be short lived. Unless something radical happens in which case who knows?
There is some proof for this in the fact that in a number of states where they voted out Democrats, they also voted for progressive ballot measures.
When approval rating is that low, I doubt that people are going to want the same people in office. Now, this isnt guaranteeing a Democratic victory this election; it might take another cycle to see the colors change, but I would bet on the fact that the recent GOP victory will be short lived. Unless something radical happens in which case who knows?
I don't know enough about America's politics to comment on it, but from an outsider's view just his appearance seems like a bad idea, it isn't someone anyone is going to look forward talking to. He comes across as really dumb, don't know if he is, he probably isn't but that's how he looks.
I love the man and I will vote for him tomorrow if I can.
Originally Posted by Fragony:
I don't know enough about America's politics to comment on it, but from an outsider's view just his appearance seems like a bad idea, it isn't someone anyone is going to look forward talking to. He comes across as really dumb, don't know if he is, he probably isn't but that's how he looks.
Basically, there is this retarded idea being pushed forth by right-wing leaning media like Limbaugh, Hannity, Cain and Erickson that, because Trump is not a politician (an "outsider") and has a lot of money, he is not corrupt like politicians and can make the United States rich and kick out all the Mexican rapists, win all the wars, incorporate Iraq's oil as payment for their freedom (Hannity defends this totally) and pave the streets with gold and all of that. If I thought that Trump had a functional brain, I would say that he is brilliant to realize the dimness of the average US voter and how to play on that. The reason why Republicans shy away from making the claims that he makes is because they know it will devastate the party in the end. I mean, they have done it to themselves, but what Trump is doing is way past the desperation of Republicans to maintain their power.I don't know enough about America's politics to comment on it, but from an outsider's view just his appearance seems like a bad idea, it isn't someone anyone is going to look forward talking to. He comes across as really dumb, don't know if he is, he probably isn't but that's how he looks.
Hannity defends this by saying that Trump is not afraid of speaking his mind. That much is true. The problem is that his head is completely empty. Hannity also treats going to Washington D.C. like a necessary evil and constantly refers to it as "Sin City". He acts like going there is going to give him cooties.
In case you are wondering, Limbaugh is the dimmest of the dim bulbs who thinks that NASA stating that they found evidence of running water on Mars is a liberal conspiracy and Erickson is a fanatic. They also seem to suffer from foreign memory syndrome, since they all claimed to have seen that aborted baby skull cracking video that did not actually exist.
Trump is the best thing that has happened to the electoral process in the past two decades. The system really needed a shakeup, and he provided it. With that being said, he cannot be allowed anywhere near the oval office.
Originally Posted by rvg:
The system really needed a shakeup
See, when I think "shakeup", I think a fresh cast of idealistic candidates who have an interest in one or two major issues, and have interesting ideas regarding those issues. Instead, what there is happens to be email servers and an idiot, plus there are some kettleheads like Cruz in the background making noise. Basically, it's 2000 all over again.The system really needed a shakeup
Originally Posted by :
With that being said, he cannot be allowed anywhere near the oval office.
Sadly the same applies to clinton, and guess who you get to choose between!With that being said, he cannot be allowed anywhere near the oval office.
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER:
See, when I think "shakeup", I think a fresh cast of idealistic candidates who have an interest in one or two major issues, and have interesting ideas regarding those issues.
Rand Paul fits that mold to a certain degree.See, when I think "shakeup", I think a fresh cast of idealistic candidates who have an interest in one or two major issues, and have interesting ideas regarding those issues.
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Instead, what there is happens to be email servers and an idiot, plus there are some kettleheads like Cruz in the background making noise. Basically, it's 2000 all over again.
Baby steps towards progress. Not leaps, baby steps. This democracy has survived this long precisely because it doesn't leap much.Instead, what there is happens to be email servers and an idiot, plus there are some kettleheads like Cruz in the background making noise. Basically, it's 2000 all over again.
Originally Posted by rvg:
Rand Paul fits that mold to a certain degree.
Ayn Rand worshiping nutcake. Rand Paul fits that mold to a certain degree.
Originally Posted by rvg:
Baby steps towards progress. Not leaps, baby steps. This democracy has survived this long precisely because it doesn't leap much.
Steps that result in bilateral fractures.Baby steps towards progress. Not leaps, baby steps. This democracy has survived this long precisely because it doesn't leap much.
Originally Posted by CrossLOPER:
Ayn Rand worshiping nutcake.
You're confusing him with Paul Ryan. Ayn Rand worshiping nutcake.
Originally Posted by :
Steps that result in bilateral fractures.
Not sure what you mean by this.Steps that result in bilateral fractures.
Originally Posted by rvg:
You're confusing him with Paul Ryan.
Why do you think his name is Rand Paul?You're confusing him with Paul Ryan.
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