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    Well, there you go. The official story is two planes knocked down three buildings.

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    Well, there you go. The official story is two planes knocked down three buildings.
    I thought we were talking about the twin towers? How many more buildings were there and how tall were they? Why would someone blow up the generator building or whatever else there was? And have you taken into consideration that the shockwave of the two towers collapsing could also affect the integrity of nearby smaller buildings?

    And while I'm at it, if that is all you took away from my post, I'm sorry for you.


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    @Husar:
    http://911encyclopedia.com/wiki/inde...nter_Site_Maps

    This map should help a little.


    Also, here is video of building 7's demise:
    https://youtu.be/Mamvq7LWqRU

    And no, it was not the only thing I took from your post. However I have always been doubtful of what to believe about the twin towers. This is why I focus on building 7. It is the most blatant example of something that doesn't add up. I lies roughly 100m from the plaza. It is separated from the other two buildings. Yet it fell down also.

    By the way. Can anyone else name the other buildings in the entire world which have "fallen down". Think big. Like skyscrapers in Japan during the earthquakes. Pripyat. Over the past 200 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risasi View Post
    By the way. Can anyone else name the other buildings in the entire world which have "fallen down". Think big. Like skyscrapers in Japan during the earthquakes. Pripyat. Over the past 200 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risasi View Post
    @Husar:
    http://911encyclopedia.com/wiki/inde...nter_Site_Maps

    This map should help a little.


    Also, here is video of building 7's demise:
    https://youtu.be/Mamvq7LWqRU

    And no, it was not the only thing I took from your post. However I have always been doubtful of what to believe about the twin towers. This is why I focus on building 7. It is the most blatant example of something that doesn't add up. I lies roughly 100m from the plaza. It is separated from the other two buildings. Yet it fell down also.
    And why would someone blow up a comparatively insignificant building to start a war or whatever the point was? You make it sound like the whole affair was an elaborate insurance scam of the owner...

    And this is why the focus should be on the twin towers, because they were the important part. collateral damage happens and whether you can understand it is irrelevant. It's hard to say why building 7 dropped that way without knowing how exactly it was damaged. How many people died in building 7 anyway and would that number "justify" an evil cabal blowing it up to start a war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risasi View Post
    By the way. Can anyone else name the other buildings in the entire world which have "fallen down". Think big. Like skyscrapers in Japan during the earthquakes. Pripyat. Over the past 200 years.
    How would any of these comparisons help?


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    comparatively insignificant building
    That's your opinion. Look at the tenants, follow the money. I think you missed earlier where I mentioned just one of many small financial aspects affected by building 7 being taken down.

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    @Hooahguy Thanks for proving my point. Did you even read the contents of your own link?

    St. Mark's Campanile - Not a skyscraper

    Aberdeen Department building - suffered a total collapse while under construction

    Ronan Point - suffered a fatal collapse of one of its corners. Still upright after collapse

    Skyline Towers Fairfax, VA - "blamed the accident on insufficient wooden shoring to hold up concrete being poured to form the floor above it." Large section still standing after collapse

    Wedbush building - partial collapse, under construction

    L'Ambiance Plaza collapse - under construction

    Sampoong Dept Store - another partial, also was due to the removal of several support columns on the lower floors in order to make room for escalators.

    Winsdor Tower - My favorite. "suffered the collapse of the upper 11 floors of the building" They even have a picture of the building post collapse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower_(Madrid) There are like ten stories still standing.

    Okay, there are a few I skipped. Like 700 year old churches and stuff. Most aren't skyscrapers, of course the WTC buildings are also listed on that site. Your link was a red herring. No other skyscrapers have collapsed exactly like the three at the 9/11 incident, not into their own footprint like the WTC buildings. Not without help.

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    Its almost as if buildings are not all built the same so while the method of collapse are the similar the results might differ. So you are totally missing my point in all of this.

    EDIT: let me reiterate- no building is exactly the same. When a progressive collapse occurs it affects buildings in different ways considering how the collapse is triggered. You are not going to find the exact same scenario anywhere since it was a unique event.
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    Whilst oxygen gives its name to the class of oxidizers it is not the only one.

    Aluminum when hot enough will burn, something the British Royal Navy found out the hard way in the Falklands war when their Aluminum warships burnt up.

    You can soften steel by striking it. To melt something you can hit it with enough kinetic energy it will melt. So even without a oxidizer rich environment you can melt objects with enough kinetic force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risasi View Post
    That's your opinion. Look at the tenants, follow the money. I think you missed earlier where I mentioned just one of many small financial aspects affected by building 7 being taken down.
    Because it is super unlikely that when someone flies planes into the World Trade Center, that there is a financial component to it or someone somewhere even profits from it? Again, how many people died from the collapse of building 7? And even if we assume that it was demolished later on, how is that evil? Could they not have demolished it to make it collapse like that and not kill even more people or cause even more damage? Were the two following wars started because of the collapse of building 7 or maybe because someone flew two planes into the twin towers? And how were Russia and Israel part of the conspiracy since they apparently knew about the terror plans as well? Is Putin a CIA agent now or would he rather have blown the whole conspiracy up first chance he got? Other than wild theories I see nothing credible that would make me believe it was "an inside job". And focusing on some sideshow of the whole affair because you have to admit that the major event was probably not staged makes it seem even less credible.


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    9/11 was a Bush conspiracy to create a pretext for a 2 trillion dollar war in Iraq for oil we never got.


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