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    I disagree, wearing a mask shouldn't be allowed in public at all. Not only is it a security risk but it's frankly rather insulting.
    Insult is a personal feeling you may get at anything and it has nothing to do with the law (unless you sue someone covering his face and will demand a moral compensation).

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    I have absolutily no problem if those who wear full cover are deeply discriminated and I won't call an ambulance for them if they are wounded.
    It starts with it, then comes discriminating against those wearing sunglasses, red skirts, beards, those missing a tooth, those laughing too loud, those speaking an alien tongue, those having a darker skincolor, those kissing a same sex person....

    First you don't call an ambulance if any of those are wounded, then you will wish them wounded, then you wish to wound them...

    Carry on, you are moving in the right direction.

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    Mostly you get by with a high standard of living which dissuades terrorism, though not in Northern Ireland, and you don't go to the bits of the Island where you're not wanted.
    Do you mean that the British have quite low internal mobility? I thought it was otherwise, something like in the USA.
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    @Gilrandir Nothing is going to start from me. As I see it; an immigrant leaves his problems behind, a colonist takes it along. A headscarve is absolutily no problem to me, why should I have a problem with that. But if someone wants to make a statement they should know that we get the message. Not going to hurt, but I am also not going to help.

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    @Gilrandir Nothing is going to start from me. As I see it; an immigrant leaves his problems behind, a colonist takes it along. A headscarve is absolutily no problem to me, why should I have a problem with that. But if someone wants to make a statement they should know that we get the message. Not going to hurt, but I am also not going to help.
    You don't have to be a starter. All you have to do is to stand by and cheer on when a crowd stirred to action by a fanatic starts beating burka-wearers, blacks, gays or jews. Or do you have a different attitude to either of those?

    My solution is to forbid immigration. Any. In this case you will have a homogeneous society and such issues will become irrelevant.
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    You don't have to be a starter. All you have to do is to stand by and cheer on when a crowd stirred to action by a fanatic starts beating burka-wearers, blacks, gays or jews. Or do you have a different attitude to either of those?

    My solution is to forbid immigration. Any. In this case you will have a homogeneous society and such issues will become irrelevant.
    I am not cheering, I don't even vote. But if you get what you want don't blame me please, It wasn't me.
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    I am not cheering, I don't even vote. But if you get what you want don't blame me please, It wasn't me.
    This is called indifference. I may sound didactic or patronizing but I like this quotation (from Robert Eberhart, I believe). This is how it goes (in my translation):

    Don't fear enemies - in the worst case they can kill you. Don't fear friends - in the worst case they can betray you. Fear the indifferent - it is through their acquiescence that murder and betrayal flourish in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    This is called indifference. I may sound didactic or patronizing but I like this quotation (from Robert Eberhart, I believe). This is how it goes (in my translation):

    Don't fear enemies - in the worst case they can kill you. Don't fear friends - in the worst case they can betray you. Fear the indifferent - it is through their acquiescence that murder and betrayal flourish in the world.
    Point taken and I guess I qualify. But indifference isn't such a bad thing when you already expect the worst imho.

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    "My solution is to forbid immigration.": Let them die. And that is not fascism? How do you intend to enforce it? I am quite curious on the methods?
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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