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    You're gonna have to explain that one; I don't watch enough TV to know the difference between public and private.

    For that matter Britain doesn't technically have public any more. We stopped broadcasting analogue 5 years ago; everything's digital now. Even then some of the best stuff was on the 5 main channels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    You're gonna have to explain that one; I don't watch enough TV to know the difference between public and private.

    For that matter Britain doesn't technically have public any more. We stopped broadcasting analogue 5 years ago; everything's digital now. Even then some of the best stuff was on the 5 main channels.
    Isn't the BBC public? I thought they locked me out of their app based on the argument that only British taxpayers pay for the program.
    As for the content, at least in Germany the public ones show mostly reality tv shows during the day, which apparently represent the best relation between low production costs and what the public wants to see. I would personally not classify that as quality entertainment for enlightened individuals, but maybe I'm elitist. I do however wish that our school system would produce only enlightened individuals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Isn't the BBC public?
    AFAIK, it is headed by the board of trustees appointed by the British government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    AFAIK, it is headed by the board of trustees appointed by the British government.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

    It says the owner is the British public, so there we go.


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    I own it? News to me. If I refuse to pay the BBC 'tax' then they will send me to prison. Doesn't sound like I own it at all!
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    ...let's just ignore that I forgot the status of the BBC and get to the part where I point out that the BBC produces a lot of quality entertainment that makes the stereotype of shit public TV unfamiliar to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...let's just ignore that I forgot the status of the BBC and get to the part where I point out that the BBC produces a lot of quality entertainment that makes the stereotype of shit public TV unfamiliar to me.
    The best overseas documentaries are the ones that remind me of the BBC. I'm not an atheist only because I worship at the church of David Attenborough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I own it? News to me. If I refuse to pay the BBC 'tax' then they will send me to prison. Doesn't sound like I own it at all!
    What if you don't pay the tax for your car? Does that mean you don't own your car or your house either?
    You own it because you pay for it, you could even say that the state guarantees your ownership BECAUSE you pay your taxes.
    If the state does not get sufficient taxes, it cannot guarantee any ownership and guaranteeing ownership is one of the major functions of a working government as it allows business to happen. So unless you do not want to be a British citizen anymore because you do not like the common policies you and the other citizens and the ancestors you are probably proud of voted for, there is no reason to complain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...let's just ignore that I forgot the status of the BBC and get to the part where I point out that the BBC produces a lot of quality entertainment that makes the stereotype of shit public TV unfamiliar to me.
    That was my point somewhere, that I think it is just a stereotype. Yes, public TV in Germany does not produce great TV in general, but I find they do produce at least higher quality news. The private channels may have the higher quality TV series but their news often seem more sensational and in between they also show a lot of low quality reality TV. PBS in the US also seems to produce high quality documentaries etc. while the same can apparently not be said about national geographic or the history channel anymore unless you count men getting eaten by snakes and pulled out again or samurai vs. pirate analyses as high quality documentaries.
    That's not to say that there aren't some good private shows, but apparently there is also a lot of money in cheap sensational shows, especially when it comes to "infotainment".


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    Point - in Colonial America slaves paid for their food and lodging - they never got any wages at the end of the month.

    So, while you point may not be entirely wrong you example is invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

    It says the owner is the British public, so there we go.
    Where I read that

    The BBC is a corporation, independent from direct government intervention, with its activities being overseen by the BBC Trust (formerly the Board of Governors).

    The Trust sets the strategy for the corporation, assesses the performance of the BBC Executive Board in delivering the BBC's services, and appoints the Director-General.
    and that

    The Royal Charter establishes that the Trust should have twelve trustees, including a Chairman, a Vice-Chairman and a member for each of the Home Nations of the United Kingdom. Appointments to the BBC Trust are made by Queen in Council, on the recommendation of UK government ministers.
    Whoever might own it, the government has a say in determining its politics and appointing its management.
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