Rechristianization of the Middle East

[Noncommunist]

Recently, I was talking to a few Lebanese from my university. Both were working on their PhDs and were Christians. In the course of the conversation, they lamented the growing Islamization of their country. They attributed much of it to Christian migration and the birthrates of the Muslim population. To them, once Christians are a marginal minority in the country, it will lose any competitive advantage compared to any of its neighbors that have oil.

So why not reverse the process? Why not encourage the Duggars and other members of the Quiverfull movement to set up roots and rechrisitanize the country with their own excessive birthrate. And for those in Europe that complain that they suffer dhimmitude because they cannot freely commit hate crimes against Muslims, why not move to a country that can't even collect its garbage let alone monitor hate crimes. In addition, for those that complain that Muslims aren't assimilating to their culture, why not get revenge by doing the same to them?

If this actually happened, how do you think it actually would go? Would it turn out like Israel? Or the Crusades? Or Liberia? Or the lost colony? And if significant portions of the American and European far right did it, how would that affect Europe or America?

[Gilrandir]

Why not encourage the Duggars and other members of the Quiverfull movement to set up roots and rechrisitanize the country with their own excessive birthrate.

The crucial question is WHO will encourage it. Not the Lebannon authorities for sure, and why should others care?

And for those in Europe that complain that they suffer dhimmitude because they cannot freely commit hate crimes against Muslims, why not move to a country that can't even collect its garbage let alone monitor hate crimes. In addition, for those that complain that Muslims aren't assimilating to their culture, why not get revenge by doing the same to them?

If this actually happened, how do you think it actually would go?

It will not happen and the answer to "why" is Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The rightists you refer to would like to afflict Muslims enjoying the level of comfort of their own country (well, according to Maslow, ALL people would like their physical needs to be satisfied first of all). Who would like to settle in a place with dismal living standards just to satisfy their moral/ideological needs? A few fanatics, no more.

[Fragony]

Things are kinda settled in the middle-east, it's muslim territory. Don't feel like taking that from them, everybody needs a place to live. A better idea would be if christians from the middle-east move to west, and we refuse muslims that aren't actual refugees.

Christians; welcome
muslims; better have a good reason, or are invited for a job

I know I am a bigot before anyone says I am, and I know that I hold double standards so don't bother pointing that out.

[wooly_mammoth]

In addition, for those that complain that Muslims aren't assimilating to their culture, why not get revenge by doing the same to them?

Because, from a religious standpoint, in AD 2015, only muslims still feel the need to harass people that not as they are.

[Crandar]

What did your friends say about the Phalanx?

[Kadagar_AV]

Because, from a religious standpoint, in AD 2015, only muslims still feel the need to harass people that not as they are.

Not only muslims...

But they sure are aiming for some sort of world record of fugged up religious beliefs.

[wooly_mammoth]

Of course. Don't take my reply too seriously, it was purposely a stupid answer to what I considered to be a stupid question (not implying anything whatsoever towards the poster, just towards the question itself).

[Kadagar_AV]

Of course. Don't take my reply too seriously, it was purposely a stupid answer to what I considered to be a stupid question (not implying anything whatsoever towards the poster, just towards the question itself).

Agreed.

Western idiots should be handled by the western world, other idiots should be handled by their cultures.

Mixing cultures under one nation's roof is just a recipe for disaster. People DO NOT WANT to live with people of other cultures, by and large. Sure we at times fall in love and move to other cultures... But that is something else entirely from the mass-migration towards Europe (Sweden and Germany in particular).

These are interesting times...

If not for any other reason that this is a "history first" of a leading culture voluntarily ruining itself.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Well, Lord Carey has called for Britain to help "Crush" ISIL in Syria, so the former head of the Anglican Church is clearly feeling his crusading arm twitching.

You're basically describing a Crusade though, because the reason Christians are leaving is anti-Christian violence, so you'd have to go to war and carve out a space for Christians through the use of violence, and then you'd have to hold it.

Hmmm.

We'd need to take Turkey first, it's a necessary strategic bridgehead and it'll get the Greeks onboard if they can move their capital from Athens to Constantinople and re-take Hagia Sophia. Then I'd recommend pushing down the Levantine coast, skipping over the Sinai and making an amphibious assault on Alexandria, from there we can retake the Nile Delta, destroy all the buildings the Egyptians have built on the floodplain and get the irrigation system sorted. After that I'd recommend committing two forces to go West from Egypt and East from Spain.

I reckon we could take back the whole lot in 20-50 years if the EU made a good, strong, collective effort towards Reconquest. It'd be a bit awkward to have Israel in the middle of Palestine though, and they have some important ports - we might have to absorb them.

wait...

It's still 900 AD, right?

[CrossLOPER]

not implying anything whatsoever towards the poster

You can imply whatever you want with regards to some dude who uses a name like that.