Gameroom policy discussion thread

**novice** · 12-13-2016, 02:24

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

It's also extremely rare that a mod even needs to intervene in our games. I think the most times it has happened have involved spambots or first timers from other forums who refused to come close to being civil.

I would agree that it's rarely needed, but it did happen in the Futurama game and in the latest game, and also in the IKEA game I just read. In that game the moderator action was also used for solving purposes.

Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Enough with the pretzels.

GH and Zack are very unlikely to be Mafia together.

**Montmorency** · 12-13-2016, 02:35

Originally Posted by novice

I would agree that it's rarely needed, but it did happen in the Futurama game and in the latest game, and also in the IKEA game I just read. In that game the moderator action was also used for solving purposes.

How much of the Gameroom history are you reading? If all of it, would you mind giving a summary of my play 2011-2014? I only remember the highlights.

Also, if possible compile a dossier on everyone who has played here and forward it for my eyes only.

**El Barto** · 12-13-2016, 03:20

Oh, come on, if he reads your latest games he'll realise that you are always mafia and always with atpg.

Regarding the other, more serious business, yes, moderators don't act as players and nothing should be read into their actions. I was genuinely pissed last game.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 12-13-2016, 03:36

Originally Posted by novice

I would agree that it's rarely needed, but it did happen in the Futurama game and in the latest game, and also in the IKEA game I just read. In that game the moderator action was also used for solving purposes.

I'm glad you brought this up. That post you quoted annoyed me at the time - though not nearly to the extent as the more recent incident - and was in my mind (along with the events from the most recent game) when I made my above post/rule change.

(also you'll note that I've moderated the game thread as both mafia and town, so stop trying to read into things that way)

Basically, the main thing I want people to get out of this is that when I post something in green text, or make an action as moderator, the game is 100% out of the equation, and now it's officially codified as such. If folks understand this much, then we've done well here.

**Dp101** · 12-13-2016, 05:04

I see no issues with this policy, if you can't trust someone to separate their in-game motivations from their moderation then how can you trust them as a moderator? Seems pretty clear-cut to me.

**Riedquat** · 12-13-2016, 17:56

Well... I'm still a bit angered to be honest, all originated with my mistake!

To me always has been crystal clear, what's written in red or green by a staff member is the law, you abide by them and/or carry the matter privately.

I only disagree with GH in how he managed the situation, he didn't need to drop from the game, a single pm saying drop it or I'll bann you could have solved all the issue!

**seireikhaan** · 12-13-2016, 18:11

Originally Posted by Riedquat

Well... I'm still a bit angered to be honest, all originated with my mistake!

To me always has been crystal clear, what's written in red or green by a staff member is the law, you abide by them and/or carry the matter privately.

I only disagree with GH in how he managed the situation, he didn't need to drop from the game, a single pm saying drop it or I'll bann you could have solved all the issue!

Nonsense. You made a mistake posting at night, but that means nothing by itself. Most of us have done stuff that required some effort from a mod at some point, and this was a fairly harmless example - it's not like you were flaming other players or anything, you just made a mistake. It was the reactions and accusations that resulted from it that caused the issue. Now, I can't speak for GH himself, but as a former mod, I would have done the same in his shoes re - dropping from the game. This is honestly one of the things we've generally never had issues with in the GR, so I was personally flummoxed that this even became a thing. Still, it was good to clarify this in the sticky.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 12-13-2016, 18:35

Originally Posted by Riedquat

Well... I'm still a bit angered to be honest, all originated with my mistake!

To me always has been crystal clear, what's written in red or green by a staff member is the law, you abide by them and/or carry the matter privately.

I only disagree with GH in how he managed the situation, he didn't need to drop from the game, a single pm saying drop it or I'll bann you could have solved all the issue!

khaan pretty much hit the nail on the head here. As I mentioned to you in a PM, I don't blame you for what happened in the slightest. In a perfect world, once I made my moderation action (and later reversed it on Visor's request), that would have been the end of it. It was only when people started using the action I took as a moderator to try to determine my in-game alignment - and the fact that it dominated discussion and wasn't just a one-off thing - that the wheels came off. By that point I had to sub out.