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  • Do you want Shogun w. MTW's "New" features

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  • Yes, I would pay $20

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  • Yes, I would pay $30

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  • Yes, I would pay $40

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  • Yes, but won't pay for it

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    Haven't played enough post-patch MTW, but IMO, STW battles are superior to MTW battles. The maps lent for greater tactical opportunites. The Seasons and the Weather also added greatly to tactical descisions. I could go on, blah, blah...Oh let me not forget Naginta Cavalry

    Shogun, for me, and I'm sure others, is the preferable game. It just needs MTW's additional Strategic elements, i.e., the Campaign Map.

    I want the benefits of MTW's Campaign Map, but with a larger STW map and with STW's units. In other words, I want a Japanese "M"TW

    Anybody else?

    CA, is this at all in the thinking?

    Despite certain forum members putting CA/Activision down as quick buck artist, I'd certainly be VERY happy to pay for this Add-On (??) You could take the money and put it towards Campaign Multiplay.

    Too late for Christmas, how about February.

    Anyone thought about modding this? Difficulty??

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    I totally agree with you ToranagaSama and i bet there are a lot of STW veterans out there who would to

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    I would for sure.

    Is $40 the full price of a game in the US?
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    I was actually hoping for another add-on for STW based on the Japan-Korea War of 1592-1598...of course w/ MTW campaign map features. I actually feel that STW is the more organised & in-depth game compared to MTW though the former lacks the unit variaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (deejayvee @ Dec. 05 2002,21:28)]I would for sure.

    Is $40 the full price of a game in the US?
    It ranges roughly US$20-60, with the average I'd say about $40. I should have distingushed US currency and I guess I should have accounted for some other, perhaps, Negative , responses in the poll too. Over 90 views and just a few responses.

    I'm hoping the majority are just new to the TW series, with MTW their only exposure. Fingers-crossed that's the case.

    Actually, I'd pay $60 for it, since it was my poll I took the middle route and choose $30.

    Japan-Korea, would be VERY cool

    Are there so few Samurai among us...shhh....



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    How come you dont give a choice of something like "no, I prefer any future add-on to be european medieval"?
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    "No, I'd rather have a renaissance add-on"
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    See... my user name is really clever when I post in the shogun forums.... but all the action is in the main hall nowadays.... and some people there might not get it.... and thats a real shame, don't you think?

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    Not overly bothered. Just posting because i like the way that 4 people (now) voted for the question

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    I suppose they did so due to their objection to the absence of a "no,I wouldn't like such an add on".
    At least I did so.

    MTW is a much much better game allaround, most of the users believe so, as far as I know.
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    Why isnt there a no button?
    seems a bit silly were all the answers are yes
    i think that no shogun shouldnt get the upgrade cos mtw is sutch a good game its miles better than shogun witch only gives u like 10 units where as this gives u dozens and dozens of units. shogun is better off left in the cupboard to gather dust i hope the next full game includes the romans when they were first gettin there to when they ruled every1 until eventualy the empire crumbled. whats the point of paying for sumthing u have alrdy got just with new features would u lot have paid 40 dollars for mtw patch 1.1 cos thats essentialy what u r asking to pay for.

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    i kind of like the idea, but if you were going to do it, i'd add in all the souther provinces of china and expand the campaign map. this way the whole mongol horde thing could be done better.

    and if you are looking for ideas for the next in the series for TW, i'd say that the rise of the chinese empire would make an excellent game, back when it was still a lot of fighting provinces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Ktonos @ Dec. 06 2002,01:18)]How come you dont give a choice of something like "no, I prefer any future add-on to be european medieval"?
    Cause I ain't interested in THAT

    Create your own damn poll, whydontcha

    Toranaga-Sama is a Samurai with his Bow, perfectly created Katana embuing the sole of the Samurai, and his dedication to The Way, Toranaga would defeat any Gaijin stuffed in a can, "winched" atop an oversized horse too big and slow for any other use except plowing fields. A Gaijin who couldn't even get up if he feel to ground and would probably DROWN if he fell in a pool of water.

    Toranaga laughs at the thought....

    Create your own damn poll, whydontcha



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Ktonos @ Dec. 06 2002,06:22)]I suppose they did so due to their objection to the absence of a "no,I wouldn't like such an add on".
    At least I did so.

    MTW is a much much better game allaround, most of the users believe so, as far as I know.
    I don't get your point??

    How is MTW a "better" game than STW with the addition of the "allaround" stuff??
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]whats the point of paying for sumthing u have alrdy got just with new features would u lot have paid 40 dollars for mtw patch 1.1 cos thats essentialy what u r asking to pay for.
    Dude That's a twisted comment, what the heck are you talking about?

    I guess you've NEVER paid for an Upgrade and/or Add-On??

    What do you think Medieval is, but Shogun with "new" features.

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    Yeah, "maybe" I s/h added a more direct "negative" to the poll, but TS generally thinks positively, plus I had a hard enough time figuring the Poll out w/o making a mistake.

    You can't "preview" the poll, nor "edit" (to my knowledge); and Soly would probably get his panties in a bunch if, with my new experience, I formulated a "new" poll on the same subject.

    The problem with the Poll is not that there's no "NO" vote provided, but that I didn't discriminate to Shogun veterans. It would seem that half of the Guild members don't have experience with Shogun. Guess, I should post it in the Dojo, is it still the Dojo?

    [Mods and Admins, wouldn't the workings of the Poll feature be a good topic for the Watch Tower? I thought that's the place for discussion on the workings of the BB.]
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    no i dont pay for addons and neither does pretty mutch any1 i leave the sims for that. and my point is if u gave shogun all the features of mtw it would still suck cos mtw is home territory to way more ppl. and dont include china if u say that stw is more home territory as i doubt even .5% of chineese have comps.
    and by throwing out 3 ideas as pointless or "i dont care" just shows how weak ur point of view is.
    i reckon a new game altogether like the romans or dare i say it napoleonic times would be far better recieved than the idea witch the original game was based on and subsequent addons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Knight_Yellow @ Dec. 06 2002,20:19)]no i dont pay for addons and neither does pretty mutch any1 i leave the sims for that. and my point is if u gave shogun all the features of mtw it would still suck cos mtw is home territory to way more ppl. and dont include china if u say that stw is more home territory as i doubt even .5% of chineese have comps.
    and by throwing out 3 ideas as pointless or "i dont care" just shows how weak ur point of view is.
    i reckon a new game altogether like the romans or dare i say it napoleonic times would be far better recieved than the idea witch the original game was based on and subsequent addons.
    Either you are a thief or warez freak

    Did you buy Shogun? Did you pay for STW:MI?

    Dude your funny. What games have you "paid" for? They must have been some real stinkers, cause virtually EVERY successful game has an Add-On/Upgrade

    Guess you don't know many people and don't have any friends.

    In what manner is my point weak? Because you don't agree with it?

    So, MTW would still "SUCK"? Some of the stupidest logic I've ever encountered. By your logic, ONLY games that concern people's "home territory" can NOT suck Consequently, Shogun sucked and was a failure as a game.

    [I do love the smell of canibus in the morning.]

    I guess you can include in your comments of peoples to discount, Singaporeans, Koreans, Taiwanese, Indians, Pakistanis, Latin Americans, Africans, and anyone else who isn't pink-skinned, straight-haired and doesn't find their origins within the continent of Europe. Oh I forgot to mention Japanese.

    You disgust me, as do all narrow-minded humans

    "and my point is if u gave shogun all the features of mtw it would still suck cos mtw is home territory to way more ppl."

    Infukincredible

    OK, leaving the Dark Side, basic reasons this would be good for CA/Activision:

    One, development cost would be minimal, the time to do it would also be minimal, consequently the profit margin would be greater than either STW or MTW, and less than STW:MI. If only 50-75% of Shogun Total War buyers were to pick up a copy it'd more than likely would be quite profitable. THIS IS MY POINT

    So, how about it CA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ToranagaSama @ Dec. 07 2002,06:08)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Knight_Yellow @ Dec. 06 2002,20:19)]no i dont pay for addons and neither does pretty mutch any1 i leave the sims for that. and my point is if u gave shogun all the features of mtw it would still suck cos mtw is home territory to way more ppl. and dont include china if u say that stw is more home territory as i doubt even .5% of chineese have comps.
    and by throwing out 3 ideas as pointless or "i dont care" just shows how weak ur point of view is.
    i reckon a new game altogether like the romans or dare i say it napoleonic times would be far better recieved than the idea witch the original game was based on and subsequent addons.
    Either you are a thief or warez freak

    Did you buy Shogun? Did you pay for STW:MI?

    Dude your funny. What games have you "paid" for? They must have been some real stinkers, cause virtually EVERY successful game has an Add-On/Upgrade

    Guess you don't know many people and don't have any friends.

    In what manner is my point weak? Because you don't agree with it?

    So, MTW would still "SUCK"? Some of the stupidest logic I've ever encountered. By your logic, ONLY games that concern people's "home territory" can NOT suck Consequently, Shogun sucked and was a failure as a game.

    [I do love the smell of canibus in the morning.]

    I guess you can include in your comments of peoples to discount, Singaporeans, Koreans, Taiwanese, Indians, Pakistanis, Latin Americans, Africans, and anyone else who isn't pink-skinned, straight-haired and doesn't find their origins within the continent of Europe. Oh I forgot to mention Japanese.

    You disgust me, as do all narrow-minded humans

    "and my point is if u gave shogun all the features of mtw it would still suck cos mtw is home territory to way more ppl."

    Infukincredible

    OK, leaving the Dark Side, basic reasons this would be good for CA/Activision:

    One, development cost would be minimal, the time to do it would also be minimal, consequently the profit margin would be greater than either STW or MTW, and less than STW:MI. If only 50-75% of Shogun Total War buyers were to pick up a copy it'd more than likely would be quite profitable. THIS IS MY POINT

    So, how about it CA?
    Here, here, well said.

    I would welcome practicaly any add on from any period based around any country.
    For me, i enjoy the TW series because of it's game play and it's scope, not because it happens to focus on my 'home territory'.
    And add ons are certain;ly not a waste of money, they tend to not only correct any errors from the oiginal release but also give the game so much more depth, scope and variaty. they also keep the game going for longer, you can never keep that many people intersted in a game that is never updated for very long.
    So role on a STW-MTW mod, and role on a Renaisance TW and role on Napolonice TW,
    I would buy the lot of them.....



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    Funnily enough ive tried warez but with no success lets just say too many porn adverts popped up while trying to download the games i got distracted. and i got plenty of friends its just that if i can buy a game copy it and then get my money back then why not?
    i wouldnt have done that for mtw though as i like mp in it and i only copy sp games like max payne and tropico etc. sorry but i just dont think that shogun with mtw features would do the license justice, its only an opinion and u dont have to agree with it but saying its twisted and generaly pointless is a bit harsh.

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    Toranaga i appreciate ur thread but please..instead of Clavell's Shogun read Yoshikawa's Taiko:D to get some real stuff bout some part of medieval japan
    now serious...i'm the only one who wants and STW2? or S:WE2?

    'bout after medieval..i think renaissance TW si teh best option as patch or smthin; Napoleonic teh next generation.
    dunno why:) i like always to go deeper:D
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    Actualy where u qoute me as saying "so mtw would still suck" if u read the thing properly it means if u gave stw all of mtw features stw would still suck, try to understand what ppl have tiped before u throw them out to the hounds.

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    Well, I prefer STW.
    Its more simple, letting you get on with winning and less mucking around between turns.

    There are certainly some features of MTW that would make Shogun better, like the generals' statistics and a few interface improvements, but taking too much stuff from MTW and putting it into STW would lose the very thing that makes STW so good.
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Knight_Yellow @ Dec. 09 2002,17:41)]Actualy where u qoute me as saying "so mtw would still suck" if u read the thing properly it means if u gave stw all of mtw features stw would still suck, try to understand what ppl have tiped before u throw them out to the hounds.
    Little boy, why do you think I did not comprehend your incoherent ramblins?

    I've got three suggestions:

    1) http://www.mavisbeacon.com/

    2) http://www.smartkidssoftware.com/cdari17.htm

    3) Stop Trolling

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    [QUOTE)
    Originally posted by Knight_Yellow
    Why isnt there a no button?
    seems a bit silly were all the answers are yes
    i think that no shogun shouldnt get the upgrade cos mtw is sutch a good game its miles better than shogun witch only gives u like 10 units where as this gives u dozens and dozens of units. shogun is better off left in the cupboard to gather dust i hope the next full game includes the romans when they were first gettin there to when they ruled every1 until eventualy the empire crumbled. whats the point of paying for sumthing u have alrdy got just with new features would u lot have paid 40 dollars for mtw patch 1.1 cos thats essentialy what u r asking to pay for.[/QUOTE]

    If you have STW or WE you have payed for somthing you already have, if you have MTW. If you didnt noticed it its pritty much the same game, just with a couple of dozens more units etc etc

    And isnt a patch and a add-on 2 different things???
    Its the companys duty to make sure the game work and when it doesnt do that when they release it they have to patch it. We who bout the game deserver that atleast.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Toranaga i appreciate ur thread but please..instead of Clavell's Shogun read Yoshikawa's Taiko:D to get some real stuff bout some part of medieval japan
    [/B]Vlad The Impaler[B],

    Thanks for pointing me toward Yoshikawa I'll be hitting the bookstore this weekend.

    If anyone else is interested, here's an outline/review, check the Samuri Triology as well:

    http://www.gotterdammerung.org/books...a-musashi.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ToranagaSama @ Dec. 06 2002,23:28)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Ktonos @ Dec. 06 2002,01:18)]How come you dont give a choice of something like "no, I prefer any future add-on to be european medieval"?
    Cause I ain't interested in THAT

    Create your own damn poll, whydontcha

    Toranaga-Sama is a Samurai with his Bow, perfectly created Katana embuing the sole of the Samurai, and his dedication to The Way, Toranaga would defeat any Gaijin stuffed in a can, "winched" atop an oversized horse too big and slow for any other use except plowing fields. A Gaijin who couldn't even get up if he feel to ground and would probably DROWN if he fell in a pool of water.

    Toranaga laughs at the thought....

    Create your own damn poll, whydontcha



    [For the uninitiated, TS is jokingly serious, don't get your panties in a bunch]
    Well I was only interested in improving diplomacy when I posted a poll about what do forum members want in a future add-on. With your way of thinking I should have made it like this:

    Which aspect of MTW would you like to get improved/ added in a future add-on?

    Poll choices:
    1. Diplomacy
    2. Diplomacy
    or
    3. Diplomacy?

    Maybe you thought that giving no option for someone to vote "no, I don't like one" you would force the members to vote in such way that the poll would create a false image of ppl wanting to go back to STW.
    Ok, I will make a poll.
    [Ktonos is jokingly serious too]

    Quote:
    "What do you think Medieval is, but Shogun with "new" features"

    I'd rather say that Shogun was the demo for Medieval.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]by ToranagaSama
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    Didn't your mother tell you to stop that?

    [TS is in a cynical mode today, forgive him.]
    NO

    Actually Yellow Knight is right.

    The majority of the buying public for these games is white middle class people of european extraction. Demographically speaking.
    That means Europe itself, mainly western europe, and the United States, Canada.
    Australia, New Zealand are small markets in comparison.
    By the way, latin Americans are of European Extraction, just in case you don't remember your history.
    Africa is not a market, and any games sold there are simply put, a small, (abit very small) bonus.
    Americans themselves have grown up with the European culture, espeically an Anglo-Saxon culture.
    Hence the ideas of Knights and Europe remain a real focus due to a vast majority of Americans(north and south), being of European extraction.
    And those not of direct or indirect European extraction have still growen up in the cultural ideas of those nations.

    And thats the buying public that any company will play to, why? Because a company has a primary objective to make money, if you can do it by doing something great, then by all means.

    As for Asia? has the game even been translated into Asian languages? And would they sell to china given the lack of copy right protection enforcement? Or even translate to Chinese? and if so, which chinese? Catonese, Mandrin, Manchu?

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    I guess you can include in your comments of peoples to discount, Singaporeans, Koreans, Taiwanese, Indians, Pakistanis, Latin Americans, Africans, and anyone else who isn't pink-skinned, straight-haired and doesn't find their origins within the continent of Europe. Oh I forgot to mention Japanese.
    Actually Europeans come in many shapes and sizes, and with many different looks. Blonde, Black, brown, grey and white hair. And have Curly, straight or wavey hair, or combinations in between.
    They are also, White, brown, pink skinned. And of many different religons and languages.
    Singaporeans(lots of Europeans living in Singapore), Japanese, Taiwanese, actually from my experiance have a good understanding, and a much loved fasination with medieval Europe.
    Koreans are a majority Christian population, so even their religon is based in European history.

    But, simply dismissing yellow knight, and then abusing him for the sake of his opinion, which are the actions of a child that has a closed mind, and igonrant of the facts.
    Espeically those that belittle others for putting forward a different idea, (The "Thought Police", use abuse to keep others from voicing concern or differences).
    You could have discussed it, and rationilsed it, but you choose to abuse him. Something that is against the code of conduct of these boards as breeching the terms.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Code of Conduct.
    knowingly false and/or defamatory, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane.
    Any kind of "flaming", slurs or insults adressed to an individual or a group is extremely inappropriate. Please respect etiquette at all times.
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]originally by ToranagaSama
    1. Guess you don't know many people and don't have any friends.

    2. You disgust me, as do all narrow-minded humans

    3. Infukincredible

    4. Either you are a thief or warez freak
    Whos the Child?


    fenir
    PS: the fact that didn't put a "No" in the poll suggests that you lack the insight to think ahead. Much the same as the child you accuse yellow Knight of being.
    Time is but a basis for measuring Susscess. Fenir Nov 2002.

    Mr R.T.Smith > So you going to Charge in the Brisbane Office with your knights?.....then what?
    fenir > hmmmm .....Kill them, kill them all.......let sega sort them out.

    Well thats it, 6 years at university, 2 degrees and 1 post grad diploma later OMG! I am so Anal!
    I should have been a proctologist! Not an Accountant......hmmmmm maybe some cross over there?

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    now i realy cant be bothered arguing with sum1 who just dismisses everything they dont agree with, but put it this way i will sleep easy tonight cos i know that ca wouldnt do a rehash of a game they have already released, it makes way more sence to expand the series into a new time like the romans or even napoleonic times.
    but since u will probably just dismiss this as "twisted" or "pointless" etc. i will vow never to post in a topic in witch if u dont agree with the topic starter ur post is ridiculed.
    and i aint dismissing ur point im just saying in my opinion a rehash of an already done idea is not worth it when u could expand the series.
    Kudos to fenrir




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    HELL YEAH
    i'd pay mega bucks to play shogun and MTW and renaissance and ancient rome on one giant map and timeframe with a gazillion faction choices... man it would take a lifetime to play the game and super computer to run it.... bring it on... let us loose all our friends social life and skills and become the ultimate world dominators

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Ktonos @ Dec. 10 2002,06:22)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ToranagaSama @ Dec. 06 2002,23:28)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Ktonos @ Dec. 06 2002,01:18)]How come you dont give a choice of something like "no, I prefer any future add-on to be european medieval"?
    Cause I ain't interested in THAT

    Create your own damn poll, whydontcha

    Toranaga-Sama is a Samurai with his Bow, perfectly created Katana embuing the sole of the Samurai, and his dedication to The Way, Toranaga would defeat any Gaijin stuffed in a can, "winched" atop an oversized horse too big and slow for any other use except plowing fields. A Gaijin who couldn't even get up if he feel to ground and would probably DROWN if he fell in a pool of water.

    Toranaga laughs at the thought....

    Create your own damn poll, whydontcha



    [For the uninitiated, TS is jokingly serious, don't get your panties in a bunch]
    Well I was only interested in improving diplomacy when I posted a poll about what do forum members want in a future add-on. With your way of thinking I should have made it like this:

    Which aspect of MTW would you like to get improved/ added in a future add-on?

    Poll choices:
    1. Diplomacy
    2. Diplomacy
    or
    3. Diplomacy?

    Maybe you thought that giving no option for someone to vote "no, I don't like one" you would force the members to vote in such way that the poll would create a false image of ppl wanting to go back to STW.
    Ok, I will make a poll.
    [Ktonos is jokingly serious too]

    Quote:
    "What do you think Medieval is, but Shogun with "new" features"

    I'd rather say that Shogun was the demo for Medieval.
    This is ridiculous

    First, Dude, you don't want it? Simple, don't VOTE Get it?

    Second, if you read the thread, you would have gleaned that I did not fully comprehend the polling "system"; there is scant instruction, no example(s) and no preview. So, the above is the result. Now, if you can't comprehend THAT, please don't let me tell you what you can do (Tired of this BS. ) The poll serves MY purpose and reflects MY perspective, NOT anyone elses.

    What's MY perspective?

    I am ONLY interested in people that want such, and wondered how much they'd be willing to pay. Totally positive in perspective.

    People who DON'T want it, guess what?

    I don't give a DAMN and am not interested in hearing from you. (At least not on whether you can cast your NO vote, who cares, its stupid.)

    My Poll, My Perspective, and anyone with a problem can meet me after school. Me and my friend Louisville Slugger will be happy to discuss it.

    Re Diplomacy, you can do your poll however you want, it doesn't matter to me. If "I" want something different I'll do it.

    Actually. I though the poll would provide a Yes/No choice, which it does not. Check this dopey, if I could, I'd change the poll by omitting the first choice which is redundant.

    So, the poll would have been:

    How much would you pay for a STW/MTW combo:

    $20
    $30
    $40

    How do you like that? Again, NOT interested in the negative Want to pay less than $20, don't care not interested. Want to pay $0, don't care not interested. Don't want it? Don't care, not interested.

    The above Poll would serve the purpose of indicating interest in the Combo, and gauge the interest as well. Anyone of intelligence could view the poll and discern the results. Given, "some" 17 year olds might have a problem, but didn't give it a thought; don't care, not interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Maybe you thought that giving no option for someone to vote "no, I don't like one" you would force the members to vote in such way that the poll would create a false image of ppl wanting to go back to STW
    Indicative of a mindset so simplistic as to be insulting. Believe me if such were my purpose YOU wouldn't even know it had happened. Manipulation is a skillset and artform.

    END SUBJECT

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]...I'd rather say that Shogun was the demo for Medieval
    You can say what you wish, reality is existant despite your druthers.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]...pl wanting to go back to STW
    Your perspective appears so negative. I see it as going FORWARD with STW
    In Victory and Defeat there is much honor
    For valor is a gift And those who posses it
    Never know for certain They will have it
    When the next test comes....


    The next test is the MedMod 3.14; strive with honor.
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