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Anyone wiv any information on' the whereabouts of me dozen missin' doubloons be in fer a rewards. If'n ye returns the money freely then I has a job fer ya. Otherwise I'll jist be stringin' me cat-o'-nine-tails here in preparation fer what's ta come ta ye.
Originally Posted by El Barto:
Anyone wiv any information on' the whereabouts of me dozen missin' doubloons be in fer a rewards. If'n ye returns the money freely then I has a job fer ya. Otherwise I'll jist be stringin' me cat-o'-nine-tails here in preparation fer what's ta come ta ye.
My bet would be on ATPG, but I don't have any info to say for certain.Anyone wiv any information on' the whereabouts of me dozen missin' doubloons be in fer a rewards. If'n ye returns the money freely then I has a job fer ya. Otherwise I'll jist be stringin' me cat-o'-nine-tails here in preparation fer what's ta come ta ye.
Originally Posted by Csargo:
I tried to set up a real protection, but time was against me and the people involved didn't read the pms or didn't want to participate. That's understandable, but disappointing.
Why?I tried to set up a real protection, but time was against me and the people involved didn't read the pms or didn't want to participate. That's understandable, but disappointing.
Originally Posted by Zack:
Why?
I thought she was genuine, plus it was almost guaranteed that Lissa would be attacked. Why not take a shot? Others didn't agree.Why?
Originally Posted by Zack:
First of all, no it's not, go back and read the actual reasons I gave. Second, this is not like Kage's micro-management at all - he gave orders to every random person, I organized two vigkills (after someone else had already started grouping people for the two kills), asking only those who had already participated in previous kills to join in. I made it clear in the previous Day phase that I wanted all three of Lissa/you/spaceman killed ASAP, so it shouldn't have come as a surprise that I took the initiative in organizing the hits. It's disingenuous to suggest the two methods are similar.
Let me correct you. I did not give orders. I was asking people to do things, which most of them did not, as they told me they were doing something else already. Only you went conveniently berserk with your hyper sensitive reaction, which allowed Visor and his band to mutiny. Now look what you are doing. You dont have an idea if DoubleA´s officers or even DoubleA is French or turned one. Your two vig groups are failing to target anything other then townies and you arent catching scum during lynches either.First of all, no it's not, go back and read the actual reasons I gave. Second, this is not like Kage's micro-management at all - he gave orders to every random person, I organized two vigkills (after someone else had already started grouping people for the two kills), asking only those who had already participated in previous kills to join in. I made it clear in the previous Day phase that I wanted all three of Lissa/you/spaceman killed ASAP, so it shouldn't have come as a surprise that I took the initiative in organizing the hits. It's disingenuous to suggest the two methods are similar.
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Your two vig groups are failing to target anything other then townies and you arent catching scum during lynches either.
"My" vig groups? How would you even know anything about the alignments, anyways?Your two vig groups are failing to target anything other then townies and you arent catching scum during lynches either.
And once again, you're misrepresenting my reasons for mutiny. It was not solely because you handed out orders, as you and others keep saying.
Zack, you were undeniably the primary organizer of those two vigs. You can pretend that you weren't a major player in last night's events, but you ought to take responsibility for your organization and promotion of those vigs. It's disingenuous to suggest that you had nothing to do with that.
Originally Posted by landlubber:
Zack, you were undeniably the primary organizer of those two vigs. You can pretend that you weren't a major player in last night's events, but you ought to take responsibility for your organization and promotion of those vigs. It's disingenuous to suggest that you had nothing to do with that.
I did organize the two kills last night, but I have not organized any other kills. To call them "my vig groups" and say that those groups have been "failing to target anything other than townies" (implying I directed those groups on more than one occasion) is wrong. It's also disingenuous to suggest only townies have been killed and lynched, because most of those alignments have not been revealed yet.Zack, you were undeniably the primary organizer of those two vigs. You can pretend that you weren't a major player in last night's events, but you ought to take responsibility for your organization and promotion of those vigs. It's disingenuous to suggest that you had nothing to do with that.
Vote:NotJimRV
He should have investigated Double A or Visor immediately but he didn't. I find that disconcerting honestly.
Vote:Mutiny
Because why not? We don't know what he's been doing. He has not been cleared. I don't see the reason to not put someone else in.
He should have investigated Double A or Visor immediately but he didn't. I find that disconcerting honestly.
Vote:Mutiny
Because why not? We don't know what he's been doing. He has not been cleared. I don't see the reason to not put someone else in.
Who would you propose as an alternative?
Originally Posted by Zack:
Who would you propose as an alternative?
You, BSmith, or Andres.Who would you propose as an alternative?
Well, that was odd. Someone left me gold, and I haven't talked to any of them outside of the QT Visorslash set up.
Originally Posted by Csargo:
You, BSmith, or Andres.
I will happily serve as First Mate, but I do not want the captaincy or quartermaster positions. I already did the captain thing last game, and I don't want to be quartermaster because I'd rather kill people than block them. I do not want those positions, do not elect/appoint me to them as I will immediately resign. As FM I'd investigate the captain and QM, then get on with killing people, so don't appoint me if you're not okay with that.You, BSmith, or Andres.
I'm fine with BSmith being an officer/captain, not sold on Andres becoming one.
One thing that puzzles me - what's up with the Ironside thing? Why did he give the gold to his (attempted) killers? I and others were assuming it's because he's third party, but he was apparently a noble seaman, which raises the question of why landlubber didn't do the same thing? Either lubber wasn't actually trying to leave the ship, that bribe thing is exclusive to townies (which lubber wasn't), or it has something to do with Ironside having four attackers and landlubber five (though I don't know why that would matter). The way it's written, it seems like the kill attempt on Ironside succeeded, but he abandoned ship first, so I wonder why it didn't work out that way last night.
As in every phase: I be open ta any suggestions, includin' bein' paid ta vote fer meself (Csargo, lust ye fer a second go?)or others.
Originally Posted by Csargo:
My bet would be on ATPG, but I don't have any info to say for certain.
Please 'laborate.My bet would be on ATPG, but I don't have any info to say for certain.
Originally Posted by Zack:
One thing that puzzles me - what's up with the Ironside thing? Why did he give the gold to his (attempted) killers? I and others were assuming it's because he's third party, but he was apparently a noble seaman, which raises the question of why landlubber didn't do the same thing? Either lubber wasn't actually trying to leave the ship, that bribe thing is exclusive to townies (which lubber wasn't), or it has something to do with Ironside having four attackers and landlubber five (though I don't know why that would matter). The way it's written, it seems like the kill attempt on Ironside succeeded, but he abandoned ship first, so I wonder why it didn't work out that way last night.
Nah, we just gits 10 doubloons apiece fer a kill attempt. Right? 10 doubloons. Shiny, sparklin' doubloons.One thing that puzzles me - what's up with the Ironside thing? Why did he give the gold to his (attempted) killers? I and others were assuming it's because he's third party, but he was apparently a noble seaman, which raises the question of why landlubber didn't do the same thing? Either lubber wasn't actually trying to leave the ship, that bribe thing is exclusive to townies (which lubber wasn't), or it has something to do with Ironside having four attackers and landlubber five (though I don't know why that would matter). The way it's written, it seems like the kill attempt on Ironside succeeded, but he abandoned ship first, so I wonder why it didn't work out that way last night.
Originally Posted by El Barto:
As in every phase: I be open ta any suggestions, includin' bein' paid ta vote fer meself (Csargo, lust ye fer a second go?)or others.
Please 'laborate.
Nah, we just gits 10 doubloons apiece fer a kill attempt. Right? 10 doubloons. Shiny, sparklin' doubloons.
afaik he's the only one who's been stealing. There could be more, but he's been the most vocal about it. As in every phase: I be open ta any suggestions, includin' bein' paid ta vote fer meself (Csargo, lust ye fer a second go?)or others.
Please 'laborate.
Nah, we just gits 10 doubloons apiece fer a kill attempt. Right? 10 doubloons. Shiny, sparklin' doubloons.
I'm not buying any votes today, sorry.
Originally Posted by Csargo:
My bet would be on ATPG, but I don't have any info to say for certain.
Nay, I have 11 of Ituralde's gold pieces that say I wasn't stealin' from El Barto. What do I look like, some kind of gold thief? The nerve of such an accusation.My bet would be on ATPG, but I don't have any info to say for certain.
PS Ituralde, I has your gooo-ooold.
Originally Posted by Zack:
I did organize the two kills last night, but I have not organized any other kills. To call them "my vig groups" and say that those groups have been "failing to target anything other than townies" (implying I directed those groups on more than one occasion) is wrong. It's also disingenuous to suggest only townies have been killed and lynched, because most of those alignments have not been revealed yet.
I can confirm this.I did organize the two kills last night, but I have not organized any other kills. To call them "my vig groups" and say that those groups have been "failing to target anything other than townies" (implying I directed those groups on more than one occasion) is wrong. It's also disingenuous to suggest only townies have been killed and lynched, because most of those alignments have not been revealed yet.
Originally Posted by Csargo:
You, BSmith, or Andres.
I would prefer yourself to andres. I am inclined to agree with you, if we have a suitable candidate for Captain that wants the job.You, BSmith, or Andres.
Originally Posted by Sprig:
I can confirm this.
I would prefer yourself to andres. I am inclined to agree with you, if we have a suitable candidate for Captain that wants the job.
I just threw out people who I find the least suspicious for various reasons.I can confirm this.
I would prefer yourself to andres. I am inclined to agree with you, if we have a suitable candidate for Captain that wants the job.
I would agree that it does appear that our leadership is not working that closely together. I will not support a mutiny at this time, but should it happen I will state fairly unequivocally that I do not want to be FM or Quartermaster, and have told our current captain as much.
Originally Posted by BSmith:
I would agree that it does appear that our leadership is not working that closely together. I will not support a mutiny at this time, but should it happen I will state fairly unequivocally that I do not want to be FM or Quartermaster, and have told our current captain as much.
But you would be captain? Csargo's post reminded me that you were scanned as town and not susceptible to conversion, so you would actually be the perfect captain.I would agree that it does appear that our leadership is not working that closely together. I will not support a mutiny at this time, but should it happen I will state fairly unequivocally that I do not want to be FM or Quartermaster, and have told our current captain as much.
I would not turn it down should it come to pass.
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Let me correct you. I did not give orders. I was asking people to do things, which most of them did not, as they told me they were doing something else already. Only you went conveniently berserk with your hyper sensitive reaction, which allowed Visor and his band to mutiny. Now look what you are doing. You dont have an idea if DoubleA´s officers or even DoubleA is French or turned one. Your two vig groups are failing to target anything other then townies and you arent catching scum during lynches either.
Let me correct you. I did not give orders. I was asking people to do things, which most of them did not, as they told me they were doing something else already. Only you went conveniently berserk with your hyper sensitive reaction, which allowed Visor and his band to mutiny. Now look what you are doing. You dont have an idea if DoubleA´s officers or even DoubleA is French or turned one. Your two vig groups are failing to target anything other then townies and you arent catching scum during lynches either.
Zack was the big supporter of the mutiny with me - thought that was rather obvious by us both questioning you hard in public.I did give gold to Gaius and Takh to support the mutiny though - I was probably the head honcho of it all.
Ituralde, were you robbed?
Gaius, Andres, and JHT - no more laying low. Given last night's activity, it would make sense to conclude that the French team has been spending most of its efforts on town group-actions throughout the game - but for some loose ends, namely you three.
It may well be that at this point the town offices or network ranks have been compromised by the scum, but until you three have been more-thoroughly accounted for, I can't countenance an internal inquisition.
And given these comments, Csargo and Pizza, you will find it useful to engage more directly with the over-group, regardless of how corrupt you judge it now.
Vote: Andres
Gaius, Andres, and JHT - no more laying low. Given last night's activity, it would make sense to conclude that the French team has been spending most of its efforts on town group-actions throughout the game - but for some loose ends, namely you three.
It may well be that at this point the town offices or network ranks have been compromised by the scum, but until you three have been more-thoroughly accounted for, I can't countenance an internal inquisition.
And given these comments, Csargo and Pizza, you will find it useful to engage more directly with the over-group, regardless of how corrupt you judge it now.
Vote: Andres
Sae we can finally get Double A killed? A captain who told me to me face tha' he didna' care if I was robbed of me righftully acquired plunder an' blood-money? Any time! (an' I won't be chargin' ye a Csargo price)
I assume Csargo has been robbing me the last couple of nights
I can already see where the wind is trying to blow - and truth be told I can't summon up the energy to care. I think its wrong, and most of you probably believe its wrong, but christ if I just can't be bothered.
That Xiahou day just sucked all the fun out for me.
That Xiahou day just sucked all the fun out for me.
Wha' be ye talkin' aboot, laddie?
Can't you see it?
I didn't see it.
I can't believe it.
Oh, but I feel it.
I can't believe it.
Oh, but I feel it.
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