Pirate Ship Mafia III [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I be havin' an issue with this.

Here's a tissue.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Host's tally:

[El Barto]

To show the strength disparity, and highlight the fancy cutlass?

I don't know. FANCY SWORDS SEEM FRENCH TO ME. /lies

Ye uses the word ‘disparity’ which comes fram the French tongue. This be suspicious.

Here's a tissue.

Thanks, lad -why be it suspiciously like ye had ripped oot some pages off the beuks?

[dcmort93]

I wonder this? Too.

There seems to be this unrecruitable = town vibe running. Now i know BSmith claims to be something special but i don't have the full details of what that is but the question i have put to everyone why would you think scum and third part would show up as recruitable.

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I was not stealing or blocked. I was attacking Gaius. You can see me as the tromper in the write up.

Cause he's been fully scanned as an unrecruitable townie. Its been mentioned many times.

[Sprig]

Cause he's been fully scanned as an unrecruitable townie. Its been mentioned many times.

My question was not really related to BSmith by the way. feel free to actually read the question.

But since you brought it up, could you share the the three nights he was scanned? My records are that he was only scanned twice.


Any anycase, I am now comfortable with how actions played out last night.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have to admit, I love the French guy being the villain, so we can all say how people seem like they're French, and how bad that is.

It's hilarious to me.

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I have nothing against actual French, but it's reminiscent of the silliness of anti-French sentiment in the "Colonies" by people who live up there in them there Appalachian mountains in little shacks and wed their sisters.

ARE YOU FRENCH?!? I'M COMIN' TO GET YOU FRENCHIE!!!

And of course, only the head guy is actually French, but the way we talk, it's like he spreads his Frenchness around like a disease.

Better watch out, he'll turn you French. AND THAT IS THE WORST THING EVER.

[Sprig]

They might as well surrender now. We all know they are going to, eventually.

[Csargo]

Host's tally:

I was looking for that the other day. Thought I had it saved, but glad to know it lives on.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Thought you were gonna survive that vig did ya Gaius?

In fairness, no. I had a fair inkling that someone would bag me. The important point is, as I have mentioned several times, it has been a complete waste of time. So many people tied up in my sad demise, and a complete waste of both arole-block and a kill. On reflection, the use of both powers on me reflects such extremely poor judgement that you might just all be innocent.

As I stated in thread before, I have been consistently stealing from you until, lo and behold, I actually showed up when you asked me to vig someone two nights ago. Cc'ed orders are a waste of time, since one can simply change them anyway - to everyone, for future reference, don't expect that from me.

@Zack: I already noted that piece of information in thread. Among my haul from Visorslash was a fancy cutlass, now the property of my killer. As I noted at the time, the owner of the sword is unlikely to be 'the Frenchman', owner of a rapier, but Visor has been so defensive, that it might mean something..?

[Andres]

Vote: Ishmael

[Sprig]

Cc'ed orders are a waste of time, since one can simply change them anyway - to everyone, for future reference, don't expect that from me.

Not really, it is common courtesy.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Not really, it is common courtesy.

Fair enough. Not the time or place for a lengthy discussion, but my view is that at its core it is inherently and unambiguously dishonest, doesn't help to confirm anything and so I won't engage in it.

Edit: rereading that sounds really curt. It isn't meant as such and isn't a criticism - I understand the rules of the game. The point is, it isn't really a courtesy at all, it is an organisational tool, which doesn't tell you anything at all in game.

[Csargo]

So, I've been waiting for Lissa/Spaceman to be revealed as townie/french or both one way or another. In order to see if it was true about her being blocked, and it turns out it was. The only person that isn't accounted for that night is Golden1Knight. If anyone can account for him Night 1 great, if not then I'd say he should be lynched now. If someone can account for him then that means afaik everyone was accounted for and I don't know how that would be possible. Also, the fact that Zack refused to vig G1K on Night 3? makes me a bit leery.

The reason I voted BSmith is because none of it makes any sense to me and I think it highly likely that he's the Frenchman/Godfather. Why was he investigated/cleared by NotJimRV/dcmort93 immediately? I can think of 4-5 better choices right off that make way more sense than BSmith. That investigation choice is really odd to me. He's active but quiet and unassuming, which is what I'd expect. I don't believe he was roleblocked either. Doesn't make sense at all, just makes him look shinier. I'd be flabbergasted if he was innocent.

Whether Gaius was innocent or guilty I'm not really sure, he was kind of an enigma to me. I do know that we were going to protect Montmorency N2 but that fell through for some reason or other. Night 3 we did end up protecting him, and then our group sort of fell apart. I PM'd with Monty after the whole two groups fiasco explaining myself and asking how he knew. He said Gaius and some other stuff about nuking all of us, which was pretty funny. I just found it all odd and have been wary of both since.

Andres has like 1 confirmed action that I know of and that was Night 1. He claimed to have stolen once(?), but I couldn't confirm that.

ATPG () Abandoned our group after Night 1 iirc maybe Night 2 been piratin' ever since. I haven't bothered to trudge through the thread to confirm. Wish he would have jumped ship.

Double A well he's like Andres really, which is why I've been mutinying. He's in and out, plus no idea what he's doing at night.

That's who I categorized as 'High' on my list.

El Barto, Ishmael, Choxorn(abandon ship), Sprig, Zack, Ituralde(Medium-High) = Medium suspicion

Low = Everyone else

None = Csargo

That's my list, it's not color-coded like ATPG's was, but no one can compete with the Pizza. Feel free to ignore me though, that's cool to. I've only risked my life like three times and defended innocent people the entire game. This game is really starting to get to me. I should have a lie down.

[El Barto]

Arrr, why be ye takin' the Japanese shungy woodcuts we got when piratin' in the Eastern Seas last year to yer so-called ‘lie-down’?

An' also, I be takin' issue with yer suspectin' me. Me whereabouts be provable fer every night, I's sold me vote every single day an' can prove it, which makes me more pirate-y than most, an' I be Lutheran to boot, an enemy o' the French crown an' their Huguenot-slaughtering lackeys. They be wantin' Flanders fer themselves an' tha' be nae good in me eyes.

[Csargo]

Arrr, why be ye takin' the Japanese shungy woodcuts we got when piratin' in the Eastern Seas last year to yer so-called ‘lie-down’?

An' also, I be takin' issue with yer suspectin' me. Me whereabouts be provable fer every night, I's sold me vote every single day an' can prove it, which makes me more pirate-y than most, an' I be Lutheran to boot, an enemy o' the French crown an' their Huguenot-slaughtering lackeys. They be wantin' Flanders fer themselves an' tha' be nae good in me eyes.

You're Low-Medium to be fair. I don't really suspect you.

[Zack]

Also, the fact that Zack refused to vig G1K on Night 3? makes me a bit leery.

Saying I "refused" to vig him is a misrepresentation. His name was brought up as a possible target (qt m311), and I said I was "not crazy about it" (m316) as I had worked with him the previous night and he proved reliable. The way you present it suggests that I was placed in a group to vig GoldenKnight and was uncooperative, which is false.

[Zack]

So, I've been waiting for Lissa/Spaceman to be revealed as townie/french or both one way or another. In order to see if it was true about her being blocked, and it turns out it was. The only person that isn't accounted for that night is Golden1Knight. If anyone can account for him Night 1 great, if not then I'd say he should be lynched now. If someone can account for him then that means afaik everyone was accounted for and I don't know how that would be possible. Also, the fact that Zack refused to vig G1K on Night 3? makes me a bit leery.

The reason I voted BSmith is because none of it makes any sense to me and I think it highly likely that he's the Frenchman/Godfather. Why was he investigated/cleared by NotJimRV/dcmort93 immediately? I can think of 4-5 better choices right off that make way more sense than BSmith. That investigation choice is really odd to me. He's active but quiet and unassuming, which is what I'd expect. I don't believe he was roleblocked either. Doesn't make sense at all, just makes him look shinier. I'd be flabbergasted if he was innocent.

Whether Gaius was innocent or guilty I'm not really sure, he was kind of an enigma to me. I do know that we were going to protect Montmorency N2 but that fell through for some reason or other. Night 3 we did end up protecting him, and then our group sort of fell apart. I PM'd with Monty after the whole two groups fiasco explaining myself and asking how he knew. He said Gaius and some other stuff about nuking all of us, which was pretty funny. I just found it all odd and have been wary of both since.

Andres has like 1 confirmed action that I know of and that was Night 1. He claimed to have stolen once(?), but I couldn't confirm that.

ATPG () Abandoned our group after Night 1 iirc maybe Night 2 been piratin' ever since. I haven't bothered to trudge through the thread to confirm. Wish he would have jumped ship.

Double A well he's like Andres really, which is why I've been mutinying. He's in and out, plus no idea what he's doing at night.

That's who I categorized as 'High' on my list.

El Barto, Ishmael, Choxorn(abandon ship), Sprig, Zack, Ituralde(Medium-High) = Medium suspicion

Low = Everyone else

None = Csargo

That's my list, it's not color-coded like ATPG's was, but no one can compete with the Pizza. Feel free to ignore me though, that's cool to. I've only risked my life like three times and defended innocent people the entire game. This game is really starting to get to me. I should have a lie down.

You suspect all of the leadership but don't even mention Visor?

[Zack]

@Zack: I already noted that piece of information in thread. Among my haul from Visorslash was a fancy cutlass, now the property of my killer. As I noted at the time, the owner of the sword is unlikely to be 'the Frenchman', owner of a rapier, but Visor has been so defensive, that it might mean something..?

You also said there was something that cleared you, which I don't recall seeing. Why you wouldn't immediately go public with info you thought might a) clear you and/or b) incriminate an officer, instead trying to deal it out in private like an information broker, is beyond me.

[El Barto]

You're Low-Medium to be fair. I don't really suspect you.

Any math'tician worth his saltines wad awready come ta the conclusion tha' if ye dinnae suspeckt me then thar be zero suspicion.

Also, them woodcuts?

[Zack]

N6: an opportunity presented itself

The Frenchman wined and dined you?

[Zack]

I'm rich! I'm wealthy! I'm independent! I'm financially secure! I'm comfortably well off! Wooo hooo!!!

I've stolen from the Captain! I told him I was stealin' from him!

I've stolen from the First Mate! I told him I stole from him!

I've stolen from the blighter what tried to steal gold from me! Damn that felt good....

I've stolen 19 cursed coins from Zackbeard! I'm never going to die, I'm going to forever roam this ship as a skeleton now, and I don't even care!

I've told this crew I'd end up stealing more from them than they ever would from me, to their faces!



RUN RUN

AS FAST AS YE CAN

YOU CANT CATCH ME

I'M ASKTHEPIRATEGUY MAN

Congratulations on stealing from people who were never guarding their gold and thereby failing to assist vigilante groups that were expecting your promised assistance. I'm glad you're so proud of yourself.

[Zack]

I like you, you hard working bastard.

If I had more than one will, you'd be in it. Instead 50 is going to Visor.

Someone should will you gold though. You've earned it.

Your entire will is to someone you have an outstanding bounty on?

I appreciate how all of MY hard work is only rewarded with thievery. Where's the will leaving me gold? Where's my pat on the back? No, all I get for my effort is gloating on how much you stole from me.

Unvote, Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Screw you. I won't try to steal my gold back. I'll just kill you. I'll vote for you every day and attack you every night, even if it's all by myself, until you're dead. I don't care if you're French, I don't care if you're town, I don't care if you're something else. I don't care. I do care that you stole from me and rubbed it in my face. So you die.

And I'm not writing a damn will. My gold is mine and no one else's, even when I'm dead.

[Zack]

PM dump time.

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Can you please organize this:

Kill Gaius
Pizza
Golden
Ishmael
BSmith (wants to work with Pizza)
Auto (wants to protect Ishmael, wants to kill Gaius)

Ishmael will be deal with.

Are you taking care of this?

I'm being killed off tonight, so I don't have much of anything further to add.

I am going to die as a Pirate. I failed in my gambit to infiltrate the French, so I do not deserve the glory of life on a tropical island with my gold surrounding me, with naked women running around.

I shall die standing on my feet, and I shall die with as much gold in my hands as I can.

WTF?

I just lied to him, saying he was going to be killed in the night. Suggested curio as the honcho behind it.

Jesus Visor, as if things weren't already hectic enough.

Zack is going to be sad when he sees his full inbox...

Also, Ishmael would be willing to work in a vig against Andres or Gaius.

If 2 of Auto, Choxorn and BSmith prove cooperative, then we'll place Ishmael in with them.

Now if only I could figure out who the hell Gaius claims to be working for, and on what...

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Ishmael and JHT are very likely both evil, but there is one - and only one - worrying alternative:

By this point, the entire leadership and one or more of BSmith, Ishmael, and are on the French team.

If that's the case, then the only chance we have is mutiny.

My proposal:

Visor is bent on seeing Ishmael dead, so let's give him an offer.

JHT goes to the lynch, Ishmael will be vigged. Visor's reaction and peripheral arguments are the object of scrutiny.

Other than voting JHT, don't make any moves yet. I'm waiting on some responses.

Ishmael and JHT are very likely both evil, but there is one - and only one - worrying alternative:

By this point, the entire leadership and one or more of BSmith, Ishmael, and are on the French team.

What makes you think this?

I'm waiting on some responses.

From who?

Why should I trust you? Because this is the message Visor sent me last night:

if you started town and still are, i'd be highly wary of being recruited by monty

Well, I'm hardly surprised he sent that with all the crap I've been flinging at him in private yesterday and today.

OK, look at it this way. Double A is scum, then he has had free reign since N2 to do scum actions, particularly if scum actions can consume gold.

If the FM is scum, then the BSmith scan and the Visor scan are meaningless and the FM could similarly have been scumming around all those nights.

Note that BSmith claimed that he was blocked. To be sure, JHT (who I still want to lynch) could have done it as per his non-participation in groups, but also note that BSmith has mentioned a personal "non-role" objective of "participating with as many people as [he] can."

If Visor is scum, then, well, that forces a re-evaluation of quite a few actions and alibis. And then, what about his own actions? Blocking (or at least claiming to block) Ishmael (which had the effect of saving Gaius, someone he refused to block earlier despite my urgings), consistently-bad choices for night-targets and lynches, demeanor that is by turns cavalier and fixated,

Ishmael could well be scum on his own, and if the leadership are scum it's that much more likely for him to be scum.

One more note, but for Pizza's sake please keep this private for now: Double A was supposed to be on the Ishmael vig, but he sent in his order only a few hours before the deadline and it didn't have GH as a recipient.

I've sent Pizza similar concerns - he read them shortly after this phase began - but he has not replied, and it is also possible that he is a convert in this whole framework (I firmly believe he has been townie for at least most of the game).

At any rate, please support an extension to GH.

This is what I'm talking about.

Visor's explanation is even worse than I could have imagined.

You can negotiate with incompetence. You can't negotiate with scum.

I was keeping Pizza on retainer for a mutiny, but Visor managed to convince me that his handling of the situation would improve so I called it off.

I don't really want Double A dead (just yet) either, but I do demand that he resign.

If he will not resign, or if he doesn't even bother to comment on the situation such that he posts a refusal to resign, then the obvious way out is to remove him by force.

Dammit, sorry, the text wall blinded me from the CC.

I was the one who was holding on to Pizza as a potential mutiny vote. Visor made himself look better over the course of the day, so I never called it in.

BTW, Zack's inbox is full now.

So what's the group of French? Who do you think? I want to see if we're on the same page.

Csargo

If we were assuming the leadership to be 100% town, then I would say that killing the following would finish the game for the Mafia:

JHT
Ishmael
Andres
Gaius

At this point, I've been forced to lean towards a scenario in which the leadership is compromised, but if the leadership is compromised, then all three must be scum.

Beyond them, it would be very likely for Ishmael and BSmith to be scum, maybe even Pizza. However, even in that case JHT and Andres remain extremely enigmatic...

What I would like to see for today is a public outcry demanding that Double A either resign or die in mutiny, with JHT being lynched outright.

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Pizza posted weird crap in the thread, and won't respond to my group instructions.

Gaius says he has accepted a "different assignment" unless I pay him 5 gold.

3 vigs ain't happening peeps, and it looks like there's a breakdown behind the scenes...

I don't know how long we have to wait for things to fall in place, and I'm not confident that any such thing will happen on its own.

I'll do what I can to patch things in the next hour, but failing that do I have permission to try to sort out a new vig group against Andres from the wreckage?

I'd prefer you to vig gaius over andres, i'll roleblock andres

Why has Pizza been so set against getting rid of Andres and JHT? Why the sudden shift in rhetoric? I don't like it. That plan the other night was dumb, but in the meta I wouldn't put it past a triple-agent Pizza to puff it up.

At any rate, I trust him far less now than I have since before D3.

At various points I'll suggest 2 scan targets for you to pass on to the FM, but I think one of them will have to be Pizza.

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OK, so I will be off for some hours.

Pizza is willing to cooperate again.

I don't know how it will turn out for the others I listed who have not responded yet, or for that shifty Gaius, but this is the shape I envision for the groups in their solid form:

Kill Andres
Ishmael
Auto
Sprig
Pizza/(Gaius)

Kill Gaius
Choxorn
Golden
Ituralde
(Pizza)
Sprig


And finally, get Double A.

These groups are contradicting. Sprig and Pizza are in both of them.

Things are looking good.

BSmith, Choxorn, Sprig, Pizza, Ituralde vs. Gaius

Ishmael, Gaius, Golden, Auto vs. Andres

Main problems: Choxorn has been inactive all phase. Ituralde and Golden were onboard, but they have not yet read the mass-PMs I sent around half-phase about the teams.

It's still not clear to me if Pizza will ultimately stick it through, though I am paying him.

Visor, have dcmort online, if only for the last 2 hours of the phase. Based on what I can gather by then, I will send you a final list of scan recommendations.

LOok, I'm going to be awol for the next 4ish hours probably

let me know as much as you can of what people are doing so I know who to roleblock

Just have dcmort kill someone

Choxorn has sent orders.

AFAIK the Andres-team is complete.

However, Ituralde still hasn't checked his mail and Pizza is holding out to the point that even other group members are offering to pay him money if he stops messing around with their vig.

If things stay that way, then Itu and Pizza should probably be scanned.

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Do you have any plans for tonight? I'd be willing to help depending on your plans. If you're interested/need my help let me know.

Csargo

Sorry, probably to late to include you in the vig group at this point. Been afk all day, so that's why it took so long to reply.

Okay, that's no problem.

Csargo

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So far, Zack and I have served more-or-less unerringly as junior officers. We have been stalwarts of the Town.

However, given the first-ever conversion of the story, we have to consider that the junior officership may be compromised.

I can't expect to be recused from the demotion: Zack and Montmorency should no longer be privy to the most confidential information or planning.



We have to take solace in the fact that the head of the snake is all we need to sever.

I am fine with this considering I NEVER WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY "LEADERSHIP" IN THE FIRST ING PLACE

PM me if you want to help kill ATPG. Otherwise leave my inbox alone. I do not want to be a "town leader" or help organize anything other than killing Pizza.

[Sprig]

Arrr, why be ye takin' the Japanese shungy woodcuts we got when piratin' in the Eastern Seas last year to yer so-called ‘lie-down’?

An' also, I be takin' issue with yer suspectin' me. Me whereabouts be provable fer every night, I's sold me vote every single day an' can prove it, which makes me more pirate-y than most, an' I be Lutheran to boot, an enemy o' the French crown an' their Huguenot-slaughtering lackeys. They be wantin' Flanders fer themselves an' tha' be nae good in me eyes.

What did you do night 3? i have a gap there?

[Zack]

Little older (October 8-9), can't remember if I've shared this yet.

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What is going on?

Visor suspects you. I anticipate he could engineer your lynch today if enough of the townsfolk are loyal to the town side.

Please be aware in a few hours, I will not be at my desk for 14 or so straight hours, because of my flight today. Anything we discuss will have to happen shortly or it will have to wait until I land in Orlando and return home.

For myself, I generally don't care where I vote. I don't know if Visor is correct or not. I don't care. I also have nothing against you despite our earlier friction, so, don't read too much into my vote.

What can I do for you?

Visor suspects you. I anticipate he could engineer your lynch today if enough of the townsfolk are loyal to the town side.

Please be aware in a few hours, I will not be at my desk for 14 or so straight hours, because of my flight today. Anything we discuss will have to happen shortly or it will have to wait until I land in Orlando and return home.

For myself, I generally don't care where I vote. I don't know if Visor is correct or not. I don't care. I also have nothing against you despite our earlier friction, so, don't read too much into my vote.

What can I do for you?

visor, his case is petty bs. I guarantee you, 100%, he's voting me because I mentioned that I had issues with the way he's been handling things. He does this every damn game I dare suggest he's not perfect, and I find it infuriating. He's a control freak. He was clearly planning to mutiny against Kage from the second of his election because he was not Visor's guy and wouldn't let Visor run the show (as jim would have and double a is allowing). I assume he got an officer position because he first proposed AA as captain in thread, even though it was MY idea to make Double A captain (look at the QT, it's true).

Could you bring together a vig group willing to take him out at night? You don't even have to pay me for the bounty, I will work for free. Can Double A be convinced to kick him out of the QM position?

Anyways, I'm working on a defense that reveals all of my actions and that silly QT. I will not apologize for anything, I will not hide anything.

I could attempt to assemble a vig group, but I can tell you this,

Gaius Scribonius Curio, Johnhughthom, and Csargo were the group I worked with night 1 before I went freelance.

Andres is willing to do things for gold. El Barto would be against it, but I'm sure gold will persuade him. I am also available for the right price, but since I was also stolen from last night I'd prefer to protect my gold unless I held an officer position.

I offer these names because due to my flight, I might not be able to assemble a proper vig group before I land in Orlando. Those would be the first place I would look for a vig group and I'm sure they'd appreciate the reference and the work, particularly if gold is involved.

Separately, Double A could move Visor to the First Mate position and make someone else quartermaster, it's been discussed. I was also considered for an officer position because Double A is having trouble finding volunteers, and I told him I still haven't been recruited and would be willing to immediately be deep scanned, I don't want to be an officer but I would do it if he would protect my gold personally. I don't have that much but I'm working on it.

But, I wouldn't say I'm the person with the most influence on Double A, just some. It's possible.

This is what I can do presently, today I'm unfortunately pretty pressed for time. This will change once I'm back in Florida.

I am also available for the next three hours, after that, I have to lock things in.

I do not want to pay anyone, gold is not as important to me as finding the French, but it is still important and I want to keep as much of it as possible. Never pay for what can be done for free. I can send out feelers later if it comes to it.

I tend to agree. Since neither the french nor the captain have me on their payroll, I'm not willing to offer anyone any money out of my pocket for anything.

I'm willing to discuss things and do little favors like send out feelers, or act as a middle man, or whatever. Those things are good for business.

I respect that finding the French is important, and, given that I am town and they're not bribing me yet, I am on principle willing to assist. It's just not as important to me, I've been up front about that.

I don't want Visor as first mate, I want him out entirely. I want NotJim out, too. I'd prefer any replacements be reliable people who are not Visor's cronies.

I'm certainly not. Reliable in that I am presently not french or converted, and I will respect and honor any monetary arrangements that I back with my word of honor, that I am.

I'm giving myself rules to play by, you see.

But I'll even tell you up front that I'll sell you or anyone else out on this ship, provided someone pays me money and they didn't have the foresight to pay me first. First come, first served.

I'd be fine with you as an officer. I'd be willing to be first mate, but I will prioritize kills over scans (after clearing the other officer and captain of course)

I am fine being scanned and cleared. I like acting like a neutral, so although I'll be thinking about the solve independently, who you scan or kill is your business and I wouldn't care what you did with it. I like a game without scans anyway.

I'm pretty hands off this game and deliberately so for obvious reasons. I won't interfere with you and my loyalty can be purchased on the cheap from the captain or yourself, and I'll honor the arrangements I make, so if you want a man loyal to your side, I'm available.

and I recognize some people won't like that, and I'm not intent on holding the position. Double A is fine, I have no problem with him as captain, and it's nice seeing someone other than the usual suspects in such a position, but BSmith would probably be the ideal captain after the scan.

I like Double A and it's possible to work with him on this matter, especially if there's a threat of mutiny, but I'd prefer a good working relationship with any Captain, given he might have hidden powers over his officers, and vice-versa.

Personally I don't care who is Captain, what alignment they are, who is the officer(s) involved, or what alignment they are, all I really am concerned with are two things: raising my gold totals and keeping my word when I offer it, otherwise no one will buy my services again.

I can't guarantee I will keep my word if I am recruited to the French side, because then I have a responsibility to my new team.

But right now, I am not French, and I am willing to be deep scanned to prove it. And so long as I am not French, I play by my rules. I'm playing the role of an honorable thief who keeps his word. As an officer, I'd be bound to one side, so I'd keep my word once offered, assuming I'm made an officer before I get converted, and have no need to alter the way I'm playing the game.

Blah blah blah that's where I'm at.

If you can work with this, it's all on the table. I'm being offered a bribe for a mutiny, so if there is a new Captain in town, and you want an officer who hasn't been converted and is fine never being converted, and is not French, I'm your guy.

If you have other options and you choose to go with them, it's also fine. I'm fine not being an officer, too, and I don't care who runs the show.

Who is bribing you to mutiny?

Technically, no one presently.

An offer has been made, and agreed to, but not finalized by the other party.

I'm hoping to get some money here, so I'm being patient.

So are you under Visor's pay now?

For tonight, anyway. Although I haven't actually received a PM regarding payment.

[Sprig]

El Barto, Ishmael, Choxorn(abandon ship), Sprig, Zack, Ituralde(Medium-High) = Medium suspicion

Why am I sus? I love you almost as much as Zack

[Csargo]

Saying I "refused" to vig him is a misrepresentation. His name was brought up as a possible target (qt m311), and I said I was "not crazy about it" (m316) as I had worked with him the previous night and he proved reliable. The way you present it suggests that I was placed in a group to vig GoldenKnight and was uncooperative, which is false.

Refused may have been too strong a word, I'll give you that. It just seems odd.

You suspect all of the leadership but don't even mention Visor?

Visor seems good to me. He's been indecisive and overly confident at various points, which makes me think he's genuine. My opinion has evolved over the course of the game. While I don't agree with him on a lot of decisions, he's unlikely to be scum imo.

[landlubber]

I don't think that third chain (starting "Visor suspects you") should have been published publicly. Extraordinarily negative, very uncalled for.

[Csargo]

Why am I sus? I love you almost as much as Zack

I'm bad at looking at things apparently. Misread my sheet.

[Sprig]

Glad to see Morts thoughts mirror my own.

Vote: Mutiny

Down with Double A

Death to ATPG.


Zack, Carsgo and I for leadership!