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    Your picture is not loading for me, but I think your signature is perfect, it sums up exactly why people might be interested in right wing politics. I would have thanked it if it were your reply.

    There is a definite feel good factor in the feeling of superiority. This explains the popularity of media such as the daily mail, the feeling as you the reader at better than those scumbags on the cover, you are part of the better part of British society even though you are not the ones at the top of it, it is better than being the rest.
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    Your picture is not loading for me, but I think your signature is perfect, it sums up exactly why people might be interested in right wing politics. I would have thanked it if it were your reply.
    Look again, I was questioning your claim that the right wing emphasizes betterment of one at the expense of another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Look again, I was questioning your claim that the right wing emphasizes betterment of one at the expense of another.
    Had to copy and paste source to see it.

    It all depends on how nefarious and malice you apply to the statement.

    I give you an example: you want to pay less taxes, to do this, you advocate cutting services such as state welfare, which include things like child tax credits, which are aimed at enabling poorer parents to feed their children better. You have now successfully bettered yourself but caused greater disparity as your betterment was due to these parents being able to provide with less. Whilst you could argue that the left do the same, by suggesting your taxes such help needier elements, it does this to cause greater parity, not disparity.
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    I need more than your somewhat biased word to believe your claim that "Right-wing politics tend to emphasise the betterment of one-self at the expense of others through guise of individualism," isn't just reciting the party line.

    What I'm saying is your labour is showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    I need more than your somewhat biased word to believe your claim that "Right-wing politics tend to emphasise the betterment of one-self at the expense of others through guise of individualism," isn't just reciting the party line.

    What I'm saying is your labour is showing.
    I am actually more of a Libdem, I haven't voted Labour their than a local in 2007 as I knew the candidate of the ward, so I voted the person. I was never really a fan of the New Labour agenda. I admit, Corbyn is an interesting fellow which I am watching, because it is funny to see the Media attack the left winger and it is having the Farage effect of making him more popular.

    It is a point of view as I said, it is not entirely overt as the statement may imply but they generally have that effect, intended or not.
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    Lib-dem, labour, either way you have shown some bias towards the left wing. While it must be noted that you are better than most at not letting political alignment colour your thinking I am still skeptical that you can evaluate the right wing without being biased. Thus: citation needed.

    I'm not sure what Corbyn has to do with this, though I will agree he is indeed interesting and should make a good leader of the opposition but I still do not want the man in the driver's seat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Lib-dem, labour, either way you have shown some bias towards the left wing. While it must be noted that you are better than most at not letting political alignment colour your thinking I am still skeptical that you can evaluate the right wing without being biased. Thus: citation needed.
    Scepticism is healthy.

    What you can do is understand the reasoning/viewpoint as to why it is like that. You can see my example earlier and go 'okay, he is following that line of reasoning' then you can evaluate it within your own mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Lib-dem, labour, either way you have shown some bias towards the left wing. While it must be noted that you are better than most at not letting political alignment colour your thinking I am still skeptical that you can evaluate the right wing without being biased. Thus: citation needed.

    I'm not sure what Corbyn has to do with this, though I will agree he is indeed interesting and should make a good leader of the opposition but I still do not want the man in the driver's seat.
    You use the word "bias" like a teenage youtube comment-maker.

    Bias is when you present factual evidence in a selective fashion. Its when you purport neutrality, but have an agenda. It can also mean when you have a tendency toward a direction.

    In the context of a political discussion where were are expressing our opinions and beliefs, it's meaningless.

    I may *be* right or left-wing. I may *express* views pertaining to either. But that doesn't make me "biased". They are my beliefs or opinions.

    For some reason the catch-all tag of "biased" is exclusively used against people's opinions by those with a right-wing bias (tendency).
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