Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
"That's genuinely debatable - the Shoud and the face cloth certainly come from the same man and both appear to be genuine 1st century artefacts": "In 1988, the Vatican allowed the shroud to be dated by three independent sources--Oxford University, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology--and each of them dated the cloth as originating in medieval times, around 1350"
In http://skepdic.com/shroud.html
Just a point of order.
I knew you'd bring that up - three things.

1# It's virtually impossible for it to be a medieval fake, unless it was created from the original by an artist with unheard of skill. In particular - the shroud depicts a man crucified in the manner appropriate to the 1st century AD, not in the manner the medieval Christians believed Christ was crucified. Also, there's the problem of the blood-spatter matching exactly to the face cloth which is known to be older.

2# The Shroud is reported in Constantinople at least a century before 1350.

3# It's now believed the carbon-dated strands were erroneously taken from a medieval repair to the cloth, contaminating the results.