The Inquisition [Concluded]

**Montmorency** · 11-19-2015, 06:38

Presumably it's true - nothing can stop a double-down. In that case, we simply can't have more than one scum alive.

Vote: Ituralde

Myrddraal had the right idea, pinning you like this behind the scenes.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 11-19-2015, 06:48

Vote: Monty

I mentioned this behind the scenes, but I don't want a mindless Ituralde wagon. We're going to have reasoned and thoughtful discussion of who to lynch today, or so help me Kavehir, I will murder each and every single one of you.

**Montmorency** · 11-19-2015, 06:57

Well, who would you like to lynch?

2 on Ituralde and 9+Visor in the kill writeup = 12/15 players.

That means 3 weren't accounted for. I'm fairly certain Ituralde is one of the unaccounted. Myrddraal should have more to say on the matter.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 11-19-2015, 07:02

What makes you certain that the mafia can't double up on night actions? It's a reassuring assumption that appearing in the writeup fully clears a person, but it's not necessarily a correct one. Locking ourselves into this idea of thinking is a very poor decision.

**Montmorency** · 11-19-2015, 07:23

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

What makes you certain that the mafia can't double up on night actions? It's a reassuring assumption that appearing in the writeup fully clears a person, but it's not necessarily a correct one. Locking ourselves into this idea of thinking is a very poor decision.

OK, but presumably Mafia can't shadow-clone themselves.

If 9 people were with Visor, and 2 scum attacked, then those 9 cannot be scum unless we assume Visor got his scan wrong - unlikely given that he received the Kage treatment for his efforts.

**Ituralde** · 11-19-2015, 08:36

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Well, who would you like to lynch?

2 on Ituralde and 9+Visor in the kill writeup = 12/15 players.

That means 3 weren't accounted for. I'm fairly certain Ituralde is one of the unaccounted. Myrddraal should have more to say on the matter.

I agree with you reasoning, but not with your conclusion.

I was protecting Visorslash together with Myrddraal and you. I got the clear feedback from seireikhaan to prove my participation.
We have two options now:

1. Showing up in the writeup is reliable: We find the missing three players.
2. Mafia can do two night actions: We're back in the dark again and kill Ituralde just to be sure. After all Askthepizzaguy is convinecd he is Mafia and Visorslash is suspecting him, because he is "Active in an inactive game".

I understand now that seireikhaans games can be difficult, no reveals, no clear setup, but there has to be some point where the town can get their foot in the door.

**Sooh** · 11-19-2015, 09:03

Fair warning, I'll be very busy at work today so I can't give any input for the next 10-12 hours, and when I get home I probably won't have much energy to do more than read through and see what you all have done before I go to bed. I will make sure I get my vote in before EOD though.

**Ituralde** · 11-19-2015, 22:16

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Well, who would you like to lynch?

2 on Ituralde and 9+Visor in the kill writeup = 12/15 players.

That means 3 weren't accounted for. I'm fairly certain Ituralde is one of the unaccounted. Myrddraal should have more to say on the matter.

By the way, you mentioned here that 3 were unaccounted for and you're certain one of them was me. Now it looks like you were not accounted for by your own admission.
Why is that, if you are not Mafia? Why make the reason for your vote against me, something that you violated yourself?

**Montmorency** · 11-19-2015, 22:27

There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy.

**El Barto** · 11-19-2015, 22:36

So, is it Ituralde or Montmorency?

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Vote: Monty

I mentioned this behind the scenes, but I don't want a mindless Ituralde wagon. We're going to have reasoned and thoughtful discussion of who to lynch today, or so help me Kavehir, I will murder each and every single one of you.

What the hell

Originally Posted by Sooh

Fair warning, I'll be very busy at work today so I can't give any input for the next 10-12 hours, and when I get home I probably won't have much energy to do more than read through and see what you all have done before I go to bed. I will make sure I get my vote in before EOD though.

You're posting about future absences? That's almost as bad a scumtell as Myrddraal's posting using a cellphone.

Originally Posted by Myrddraal

So who are the four? Can anyone claim to be part of this group?

I wasn't part of any groups.

Originally Posted by Sooh

Here and confused.

Monty is a suspect because?

Because he offered me a number of doubloons to post my religious allegiance publicly, which would have told his scumbuddies whether they should kill me or not. His nefarious plan was frustrated by GH refusing to be my bookkeeper for the next three years.

Given his name, I must conclude that he is the Frenchman. vote: Montmorency

Originally Posted by Montmorency

There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy.

Explain.

**Myrddraal** · 11-19-2015, 22:37

I wasn't part of any groups.

What were you doing?

**GeneralHankerchief** · 11-19-2015, 18:02

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Presumably it's true - nothing can stop a double-down. In that case, we simply can't have more than one scum alive.

Monty claims that he was in on the protection with Ituralde and Myrddraal, but this post does not match up with the feedback I was given for why Visor died at night.

String him up.