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    Default Re: Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

    "I dont get how that relates to the previous post." Really? Too bad...

    "The equivalent of what I advocate would be for British traitors to be permanently exiled from Britain." I think it is a good and brilliant idea... So, a guy or a girl, guilty of terrorism or simply being stupid, should be brought back to the country from where he/she come from... To finish the sentence? So an Englo-Syrian who became a terrorst in Syria should be returned to Syria...Really a brilliant idea!!!! She/he will finish the training I suppose...

    "That would give you the high horse that you seem to want" I was just saying it is one of the most illarious proposal I ever read in this kind of thing. Let the terrorist (or aprentice) free to roam, and if they want to come back, stop them to do so, so they won't have to face justice...
    And yes, as well, to underline that no one is guilty untill proven to be, and even when guilty, there are degrees in the guilt...
    And about the French who fought for the Nazi, the ones guilty of war-crimes and active collaboration with the ennemy were indeed JUDGED, then sentence, some with death penalty, some with prison. Here, we speak of a State, not what is called the Epuration wich was more or less a civil war with all the ugly sides of it.
    And as you notice, none was sent in exile or deported, but when kept alive, were kept warm inside jails. It is what is justice is. Not perfect, but it did worked.
    This was of course because the problem of the "malgrès-nous", always possible even if really and highly impossible in the case we are debating.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malgr%C3%A9-nous

    Some even wrote books about their experience (even if this one was not relly one of them if you read the book):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "I dont get how that relates to the previous post." Really? Too bad...

    "The equivalent of what I advocate would be for British traitors to be permanently exiled from Britain." I think it is a good and brilliant idea... So, a guy or a girl, guilty of terrorism or simply being stupid, should be brought back to the country from where he/she come from... To finish the sentence? So an Englo-Syrian who became a terrorst in Syria should be returned to Syria...Really a brilliant idea!!!! She/he will finish the training I suppose...

    "That would give you the high horse that you seem to want" I was just saying it is one of the most illarious proposal I ever read in this kind of thing. Let the terrorist (or aprentice) free to roam, and if they want to come back, stop them to do so, so they won't have to face justice...
    And yes, as well, to underline that no one is guilty untill proven to be, and even when guilty, there are degrees in the guilt...
    And about the French who fought for the Nazi, the ones guilty of war-crimes and active collaboration with the ennemy were indeed JUDGED, then sentence, some with death penalty, some with prison. Here, we speak of a State, not what is called the Epuration wich was more or less a civil war with all the ugly sides of it.
    And as you notice, none was sent in exile or deported, but when kept alive, were kept warm inside jails. It is what is justice is. Not perfect, but it did worked.
    This was of course because the problem of the "malgrès-nous", always possible even if really and highly impossible in the case we are debating.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malgr%C3%A9-nous

    Some even wrote books about their experience (even if this one was not relly one of them if you read the book):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forgotten_Soldier
    Goodness knows why you're talking about justice, as I'm not the one talking about them being hanged, drawn and quartererd, or any other kind of justice. I just don't want them here. I'm assuming that we have the right to control whom we admit into our borders. Unless you want that taken away from our national government as well.

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