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Military solutions appear to be no win.
USA or allies do drone strikes=> ISIS: "See? We told you THEY are out to kill US"
USA or allies occupy ISIS territories=> "THEY have occupied our lands, we shall never be free unless we kill them all!"
Every military action results in grist for the propaganda mill.
If the impetus for the removal of ISIS does not come from within the area, I think it is ultimately doomed to fail.
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Mass graves of older Yazidi women: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...-fighting.html
According to IS the Yazadi are devil worshippers (they aren't, they're a minor monotheistic group who worship what is theoretically the same God as the Jews, Christians and Muslims).
Anyway, IS has been using the younger women as sex slaves - which is both horrible and a sign of their disjointed thinking, giving their fighters these "non human" devil worshippers seems decidedly dangerous from here.
Lest we forget, for all that IS are happy to attack fellow Muslims the real horrors are reserved for the minority faiths who have lived mostly unmolested for centuries.
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Yazidis's beliefs have also plenty of Zoroastrian elements, a religion which was not recognized as acceptable by the pro-Roman Mohammad.
On your second point, according to the slogans of moderate and not so moderate rebels alike, Christians should get exiled from Syria and Iraq, while the Shias should be massacred indiscriminately.
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Ironic as Zoroastrianism was the origin of the Abrahamic religions.Originally Posted by Crandar
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I've been struggling to articulate my feelings about this without going over old ground. However this sums it up for me.....
Brillo sticks it to the bad guys!
On a lighter note, this from the comments.
He forgot Eric Cantona
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There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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http://news.yahoo.com/gunmen-attack-...084238110.html
Gunmen attack luxury hotel in Mali capital, 170 taken hostage
By Tiemoko Diallo
BAMAKO (Reuters) - Islamist gunmen stormed a luxury hotel packed with foreigners in Mali's capital Bamako on Friday, taking 170 hostages in a former French colony that has been battling rebels allied to al Qaeda for several years.
A senior security source said some of the hostages had been freed after being made to recite verses from the Koran. The French newspaper Le Monde quoted the Malian security ministry as saying at least three hostages had been killed.
The raid on the Radisson Blu hotel, which lies just west of the city center near government ministries and diplomatic offices in the former French colony, comes a week after Islamic State militants killed 129 people in Paris.
The identity of the Bamako gunmen, or the group to which they belong, is not known.
Northern Mali was occupied by Islamist fighters, some with links to al Qaeda, for most of 2012. They were driven out by a French-led military operation, but sporadic violence has continued in Mali's central belt on the southern reaches of the Sahara, and in Bamako.....
Wooooo!!!
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Doesn't look so bad at the moment there, not many casualties so far. Greater concerns: drinking water. I am going to drink bottled water for a while untill everything is properly secured.
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Videos like this are awful and the mindset they breed are part of the problem. The people who commit these atrocities do not care about French culture nor do they think it's the way of the future. I can't for the life of me figure out who those videos are for? Is this supposed to make me take heart at because France has given so much to the world? I know that, it's one of the reasons I am so upset.
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My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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I find that Jesuischien kinda hilarious really, I apreciate the irony
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Depends on how hard you go in I think. But the state itself isn't a threat, but IS traveling to Europe is, nobody knows who's who
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This surprised me a bit, Boko Haram were responsible for more deaths last year than ISIS:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...id=mailsignout
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
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It makes sense. The nations Boko Haram attack have less anti terrorism capabilities than the ones Daesh operates in, so it's obvious they would have more success.
Being better than the worst does not inherently make you good. But being better than the rest lets you brag.
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No, that's not the case at all. The difference is simply that in population size.
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The glib replies, the same defeats
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Monty, west Africa doesn't have more people in it than Europe and the Middle East combined.
It's more likely their body count is due to the lack of anti terror capability countries like Nigeria and Cameroon have compared to nations like France Germany and even Syria.
A lack that is not helped by politicians embezzling massive amounts of the Nigeria's national defense budget.
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Greyblades, you seem extremely confused as to what Al-Shabaab is and where it operates, let alone what security resources the countries it afflicts possess.
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I just noticed this. Point of fact, the psychopathic rapist-killers don't care what you call them. Liberal clap trap, no doubt thought up by someone who has "the pen is mightier than the sword" embroidered on *his/her/their/its* free trade duvet.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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Pretty sure it's intended to show you're down with the Muslim Plebs.
Remember - France is run by an aristocratic elite.
It's cheap propaganda that's actually mildly offensive.
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Unfortunately I’ve seen so far that there’s some truth to the claims that many Muslims sympathize or are indifferent towards the attacks, even though one of the victims was a Moroccan Muslim.
Granted most of the people I heard saying this come from the only two Wahhabi countries in the world. Also terrifying that they didn't give a flying fuck that one of the victims was a Muslim, as long as in the grand scheme of things they "showed our strength."
I guess some people really need to have sex. Or have a drink at least. I'm convinced now that strict Sharia states produce mentally ill people.
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Dont care if they dont care so long as it pisses someone off.
It worked!It's cheap propaganda that's actually mildly offensive
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As apologist as they sound they're not lying. Daesh "Islam vs the world" narrative is pretty popular, and that sort of thing reinforces that story. It gives a sense of empowerment for the oppressed.
Daesh was initially a reactionary movement to 1 up the Shia militias in Iraq burning down Sunni towns. Their brutality was a statement that you as a Sunni can be protected and respond in kind to the Shia. It's them against the world, unlike the Shia's "Iran and us" against the world.
They care more than any other Jihadi group cares.
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The only surprising thing about this is that you are surprised - this is all common knowledge.
Now, I don't know about alcohol but the average IS fighter can get himself a sex slave for about a packet of cigarettes. If he beats her enough and she doesn't die he might be able to force her to convert and then he can marry her.
IS/Daesh/Satan's Own don't "care" at all - you might be able to use that argument with Hamas and Hezbollah because they set up hospitals and don't just shoot anyone who looks at them funny.
The depredations of the Shia militias in Iraq are well known but that is a result of Saddam's marginalisation of the Shia creating resentment that has boiled over after his death and defeat - and the successive failed Iraqi governments. If IS are "one upping" the Shia then they are, per definition, worse and they are perpetuating the cycle of religious violence.
In any case, IS will attack anyone who isn't their brand of Sunni - Shia hardly get the brunt of it, that falls on the Druze, the Zorastrians, the Jews, the Christians, the Yazadi.
You seem immune to their plight but you're shocked Muslims would support the attacks just becasue of one Morrocan Muslim? Why should that even matter? they killed plenty of Christians in those attacks - are they not "People of the Book"?
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Drugged up psychopaths. IS spares most civilians, Boko Haram just kills everybody
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