Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

[wooly_mammoth]

It's been less than an year since the Charlie Hebdo shooting and indeed, this wasn't some random Ahmed suddenly feeling the urge to do the will of the Prophet, but a very well-organized attack. Looks like a proverbial case of incompetence on the side of the French intelligence.

[Husar]

So will Hollande step up his evil communist plan and invade the caliphate now?

[Fragony]

So will Hollande step up his evil communist plan and invade the caliphate now?

If it was them they probably would have claimed it by now

[AE Bravo]

Its also rather myopic to think the whabbis have more influence than any other kind Islamist.

All Islamists are Wahhabis.

[Crandar]

All Islamists are Wahhabis.

Not necessarily. Talibans, for example, are influenced by deobandism.

[AE Bravo]

Not necessarily. Talibans, for example, are influenced by deobandism.

They are all students of Abdul Wahhab, especially after the Soviet invasion of Afghan and OBL. Prince Turki himself had funded the schools and Taliban elders.

This brings great shame to Muslims.

Cutting the funding won't step any of this. It's a contagion and it's already spread.

IS claims responsibility. We all know who made IS. So piss off.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

All Islamists are Wahhabis.

"All Heretics are Protestants".

It must be nice to be able to completely divorce yourselves from the monsters who kill in your name.

The Reaction of Hollande has been a little worrying, English translations of his first speech include the word "merciless" with regards to France's reaction.

[Fragony]

The Reaction of Hollande has been a little worrying, English translations of his first speech include the word "merciless" with regards to France's reaction.

Not smart, with things like this you must keep your cools, perfectly harmless muslims could be subject of mob-rule.

[wooly_mammoth]

Someone should tell that delusional midget to shut the taff up. Somehow, he keeps threatening the terrorists with his righteous wrath and they keep catching him with his pants down.

[Fisherking]

@Papewaio

I don’t guess you see the fallacy in you argument.

Oil is only a commodity. Your whole argument is off the mark.

The threat is an ideology. Financing source is immaterial.

The wealthy and powerful will always find others to do their bidding.

To destroy the funding source you eventually have to destroy the states which provide the power behind it.

[Fragony]

IS just claimed attack. What's worrying is that they according to witnesses were fluent in French. So from ALgeria or homegrown.

[Pannonian]

@Papewaio

I don’t guess you see the fallacy in you argument.

Oil is only a commodity. Your whole argument is off the mark.

The threat is an ideology. Financing source is immaterial.

The wealthy and powerful will alway find others to do their bidding.

To destroy the funding source you eventually have to destroy the states which provide the power behind it.

Or prevent the radlicalisation centres like Pakistan and others from accepting oil money to fund their training camps. Which we have no right to do so as they're sovereign countries. The best we can do whilst minimising the amount of change we have to make is probably the control scenario I described above. It still infringes on existing liberties, but it does so for people who are going to known dodgy countries, and it allows existing Muslims the option of either staying with their western countries, or follow their Islamic identity abroad.

[Papewaio]

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@Papewaio

I don’t guess you see the fallacy in you argument.

Oil is only a commodity. Your whole argument is off the mark.

The threat is an ideology. Financing source is immaterial.

The wealthy and powerful will always find others to do their bidding.

To destroy the funding source you eventually have to destroy the states which provide the power behind it.

As a rule of thumb the more oil in a country the more fundamentalist the region gets.

Compare Singapore vs Malaysia vs Indonesia. Singapore has no oil. It has had to create a smart work force to create wealth. It's neighbors on the other hand have used mineral and oil wealth. Malaysia is not where near as progressive as Singapore, despite Singapore once being part of Malaysia. Malaysia is far more dominated by religious sects as they give legitimacy to their government.

Compare Saudi Arabia vs Iraq vs Syria vs Turkey (North South line, more oil in the South more Fundies too). Turkey is a Muslim democracy, has the least oil. Syria has some but not a lot of oil and has a Secular dictator which by most ME levels wasn't that bad mind you that's comparing to Libya and Iraq. You get into Saudi Arabia and you have a kingdom that has two main things propping it up. The tribe in charge has massive oil reserves and the support of one of not the most fundamentalist sects in Islam.