Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

[Brenus]

"The French muslim population sympathizes with ISIS in droves. They sign up to fight at a higher rate then any other Western nation. The base for ISIS support in the west is in France. The Washington Post has numbers. I'm sure you've seen" No, I didn't, but I am sure you will provide a link. And of course from where your statistic come from... I sure ISIL publish interesting ones...
Dear, the "Muslim" population were fighting for France and were giving their blood long before the USA even recognised blacks as human being.
Still head in the sand, I see...

[Strike For The South]

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-ci...l-finds-266795

Also, those muslims who were "fighting for France" were conscripted. I doubt the Indians in the British army would feel they were defending the queen.

[Papewaio]

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-ci...l-finds-266795

Also, those muslims who were "fighting for France" were conscripted. I doubt the Indians in the British army would feel they were defending the queen.

Learn your history the Muslims in India were not anti British. Learn about Football (soccer) and Cricket and you might understand a crucial cultural tie between UK and the rest of the world.

"In 1939 the Indian Army numbered 205,000 men. It took in volunteers and by 1945 was the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men.[11] These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. Indian soldiers earned 30 Victoria Crosses during the World War II"

[Montmorency]

Learn your history the Muslims in India were not anti British. Learn about Football (soccer) and Cricket and you might understand a crucial cultural tie between UK and the rest of the world.

"In 1939 the Indian Army numbered 205,000 men. It took in volunteers and by 1945 was the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men.[11] These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. Indian soldiers earned 30 Victoria Crosses during the World War II"

On the other hand, Queen Victoria did not reign over the Empire during the world wars.

[Papewaio]

On the other hand, Queen Victoria did not reign over the Empire during the world wars.

What are you talking about?

[Strike For The South]

What are you talking about?

The idea that Frances imperial subjects were fighting for the republic in the world wars is absurd. Brenus was trying to conflate the integration of Today's muslims with French muslims fighting in the world wars. He even took a shot at the USA, but the fact of the matter is, one has nothing to do with the other.

Millions of people trying to integrate into your society is not the same as soldiers from the empire or a few upper class minorities you can trot out and claim how well the republic is doing.

[Montmorency]

What are you talking about?

A little pedantic, but Strike said that he doubted "the Indians in the British Army felt they were defending the queen".

Regardless, there surely were differences in attitude - for all ethnicities represented in the military- between 1840 and 1940.

[Strike For The South]

A little pedantic, but Strike said that he doubted "the Indians in the British Army felt they were defending the queen".

Regardless, there surely were differences in attitude - for all ethnicities represented in the military- between 1840 and 1940.

Bruh. Let me have my figure of speech.

In any event I find it hilarious empire is now being trotted out as a net positive for cultural relations. Brown people were fighting for France because brutally decided they were in charge of their lands

I'm sure that left a good taste in their mouths.

[Montmorency]

The idea that Frances imperial subjects were fighting for the republic in the world wars is absurd.

By the way, Strike, have you ever heard of the classicist Victor Davis Hanson?

He once wrote a book in which he presented the cases that:

1. The Thebans were true democrats motivated in fighting Sparta by the moral imperative of freeing the helots.

2. The Unionists were true democrats motivated in fighting the Confederacy by the moral imperative of freeing the Negro slaves.

3. The Americans were true democrats motivated in fighting the Nazis and Japanese by the moral imperative of freeing the world from fascist tyranny.

You would get a real kick out of it...

[Strike For The South]

Learn your history the Muslims in India were not anti British. Learn about Football (soccer) and Cricket and you might understand a crucial cultural tie between UK and the rest of the world.

"In 1939 the Indian Army numbered 205,000 men. It took in volunteers and by 1945 was the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men.[11] These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. Indian soldiers earned 30 Victoria Crosses during the World War II"

Are we now defending empire? Im also aware that most Indians today begrudge their colonial past. Our resident Frenchman was making it seem like Frances imperial muslims were rushing to save the republic, they were not.

[Papewaio]

Are we now defending empire? Im also aware that most Indians today begrudge their colonial past. Our resident Frenchman was making it seem like Frances imperial muslims were rushing to save the republic, they were not.

They volunteered it was their choice. It wasn't Empire demanding for them to join up, nor after independence joining the Commonwealth.

It is a rebuttal that Muslims and Indians in general did not chose to fight alongside the British. If they were anti British you will have to explain the largest volunteer fighting force the world has ever seen being on the British side.

[Montmorency]

They volunteered it was their choice. It wasn't Empire demanding for them to join up, nor after independence joining the Commonwealth.

It is a rebuttal that Muslims and Indians in general did not chose to fight alongside the British. If they were anti British you will have to explain the largest volunteer fighting force the world has ever seen being on the British side.

There were enough Indians for many millions to be both violently for and violently against the Commonwealth, as well as many more who were apathetic or some more nuanced position.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

They volunteered it was their choice. It wasn't Empire demanding for them to join up, nor after independence joining the Commonwealth.

It is a rebuttal that Muslims and Indians in general did not chose to fight alongside the British. If they were anti British you will have to explain the largest volunteer fighting force the world has ever seen being on the British side.

A large number of the Indians defected to the Japanese side and then fought handily against the Allies after the fall of Singapore.

You should not disregard economic factors and the belief we were simply going to win - as opposed to support for the Commonwealth.

[Papewaio]

A large number of the Indians defected to the Japanese side and then fought handily against the Allies after the fall of Singapore.

You should not disregard economic factors and the belief we were simply going to win - as opposed to support for the Commonwealth.

40,000 mainly POWs so not exactly volunteer and the same for the civilians living in Burma and Malaysia

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

"The French muslim population sympathizes with ISIS in droves. They sign up to fight at a higher rate then any other Western nation. The base for ISIS support in the west is in France. The Washington Post has numbers. I'm sure you've seen" No, I didn't, but I am sure you will provide a link. And of course from where your statistic come from... I sure ISIL publish interesting ones...
Dear, the "Muslim" population were fighting for France and were giving their blood long before the USA even recognised blacks as human being.
Still head in the sand, I see...

Ask and ye shall receive, knock and the door shall be opened: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-radical-islam