Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

[Husar]

Theirs is the most strident one. There are some interpretations of their culture that can mesh with the general western secular culture. But once that culture turns to faith, alarm bells ring, and interpretations of Islamic faith that fit into the general western secular culture are so quiet as to be unnoticeable. AFAIK PVC (or whatever he's called nowadays) believes in a Christian faith, but I feel no discomfort in mocking his faith and generally asserting my secular beliefs. His Christian beliefs, and most Christian beliefs in the UK, mesh seamlessly into the general western secular culture.

And is that surprising? As I will say to Fragony below, you cannot expect people to have a 180° change of mind. And I assume that part of the reason they teach their kids not to adopt too much of our culture is that they are often not very welcome here (even before terrorism was a thing). And giving up a religion is only easy for atheists, everybody else is afraid of ending up in a sea of fire or so. I can also live with people who may not agree with me as long as they don't turn disagreement into violence.
As for being quiet and unnoticeable, wouldn't be the first time that a vocal minority drowns out the rest, that's more or less a fact of life.

Of course it's a chicken and egg thing, but why should we make it our problem.. Refugees leave sorry world behind, colonists bring their sorry world with them.

Man Fragony, I'm fully with you on the don't let them impose their values on us, but the way you talk about it it usually sounds like you see a few pictures with five meanies and then you immediately want to throw all the families out with the dishwasher. When I hear of families that came here as refugees and built mafia structures, threatening judges and police etc., I wish the government would drive tanks through their homes and send them back to where they came from tomorrow. But I would never extend that to all refugees or think we can expect them to have a 180° change of mind just because they had to flee a place.

Slight mix up, regardless, still failing to see how praying to the saints for guidance and support gets you banned from heaven.

Because the only way there leads through Jesus and not through saints. By praying to them you turn them into little side-gods but the first of the ten commandments says you shall have no gods next to God.
Include all the idolatry and stuff and it really gets a bit much to the point where some catholics worship them almost more than God.
Of course not all catholics are the same, some may even be better catholics than others.