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    Default Re: Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I'm not defending Islam either. But what you say of Islam is true here and now, when (some of) its adherents choose to follow the most violent tenets of it. The Bible has plenty of such, but Christians don't take them literally. That is the difference. So it is not the religion which is to blame, but the way people interpret it.
    If memory serves, and it has been decades since I even held a bible, let alone studied it, the violence in it is always directed at specific peoples for a set duration or goal. Not an open and ongoing struggle for supremacy with all the rest of the world.

    Were it only the minority beliefs of a few within the whole of the religion it would not be terribly alarming. It is primarily one branch of Islam, the Sunni, but not completely limited to them. However, some 940 million of the estimated 1 billion Muslims are adherents to this branch of Islam and of the Sunnah.

    All branches seek the imposition of Sharia Law universally.

    We prefer to ignore studies showing 23 to 25% of Muslims have been radicalised. I guess it makes us feel better to think that it is only a tiny percentage. Even so, one percent of a billion is 10 million. Let us say that only 5% would sympathise with the 1%. That is only another 50 million who would harbour or protect the most militants.

    While I think if left in isolation within Muslim Nations this movement may play its self out but the active importation into Europe, in the name of Multiculturalism, is political, if not actual suicide for western civilisation.


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    Default Re: Terror Attack: 130 Dead in Paris

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    If memory serves, and it has been decades since I even held a bible, let alone studied it, the violence in it is always directed at specific peoples for a set duration or goal. Not an open and ongoing struggle for supremacy with all the rest of the world.

    Were it only the minority beliefs of a few within the whole of the religion it would not be terribly alarming. It is primarily one branch of Islam, the Sunni, but not completely limited to them. However, some 940 million of the estimated 1 billion Muslims are adherents to this branch of Islam and of the Sunnah.

    All branches seek the imposition of Sharia Law universally.

    We prefer to ignore studies showing 23 to 25% of Muslims have been radicalised. I guess it makes us feel better to think that it is only a tiny percentage. Even so, one percent of a billion is 10 million. Let us say that only 5% would sympathise with the 1%. That is only another 50 million who would harbour or protect the most militants.

    While I think if left in isolation within Muslim Nations this movement may play its self out but the active importation into Europe, in the name of Multiculturalism, is political, if not actual suicide for western civilisation.
    I woudn't look too far into that, if you ask an devout muslim if he wwould prefer islamimic law and he says yes it can also only mean that he would prefer it. Prefering it is ok, imposing is not.People tend to forget that ordinary muslims are terrified of these guys.

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