Both pilots are dead, machine-gunned by the Turkmens, while landing with their parachutes.
Now, Putin will be forced to make a retaliatory act for symbolic and PR reasons, but I wouldn't expect anything excessive.
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Both pilots are dead, machine-gunned by the Turkmens, while landing with their parachutes.
Now, Putin will be forced to make a retaliatory act for symbolic and PR reasons, but I wouldn't expect anything excessive.
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I don't share your optimism, gunning down parachutees is a really unaccceptable war-crime, in a you just don't do that kinda way. This is going to be a developing story.Originally Posted by Crandar
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That doesn't sound too bad, Crandar is probably right in expecting nothing exsessive
Last edited by Fragony; 11-24-2015 at 15:43.
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War crime?
They are soldiers who had not surrendered. They are fair game.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_parachutists
How can you tell that an enemy combatant in the process of descent has surrendered?Attacking persons parachuting from an aircraft in distress is a war crime under Protocol I in addition to the 1949 Geneva Conventions. However, it is not prohibited under this Protocol to open fire on airborne troops who are descending by parachutes, even if their aircraft is in distress.[1]
If they don't have a parachute.
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I guess this will have a lot of loud and aggressive diplomacy as a consequence, but Russia won't bomb Turkey, I'm quite sure.
I'll be playing some more Fallout for practice, just in case my prediction is wrong...
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They won't bomb Turkey, but Turkmens just became fair game, which is gonna piss off Erdogan even more.
Last edited by Sarmatian; 11-24-2015 at 18:34.
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"They are soldiers who had not surrendered. They are fair game." Nope. They are the air equivalent of sailors abandoning sinking ships. War crime it is according to Article 42 of Protocol I of Geneva Conventions.
We are living interesting times...
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Russians also lost a rescue chopper to the rebel fire... and they keep insisting that the plane was shot down in Syrian airspace. This has serious potential of getting very ugly.
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