Battle of the Books: Bible and Koran discussion

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You can't blame me for presenting Jesus in the same lens you used for Muhammad. I don't remember to which question he answered "I am," but it was either "are you the king of the Jews?" or "are you the Messiah?," both of which are treasonous assertions. Now you can use the Gospel to (in your mind) access Jesus self-consciousness, but that's not the way to look at the historical Jesus. Whether Pilate had his hand forced or not isn't important because he carried out the sentence in the end, and correct me if I'm wrong hated Jews since he showed little regard for their lives and customs. The fact that the Gospel writers toned down the revolutionary rhetoric used by Jesus is proof that Jesus overstepped his boundaries when it came to the business of the temple and Rome's sovereignty.

People declared him king, disrupting the sanctity of temples, forces that marched to arrest him, and the punishment of crucifixion is solid evidence that he was engaged in what is perceived to be then as criminal activity. If you think Jesus is (from a purely historical perspective) absolved of his actions, than previous false messiahs would also carry that same legacy no?

Crimes that warrant crucifixion: treason, rebellion, sedition, banditry aka those who challenge the empire

So answer me this, why Twelve apostles?

All this started because you said Islam was the "Religion of Peace" and they I pointed out that Muhammed was a Warlord and contrasted this with Jesus who was, most definitely, a pacifist.

Well first I made it clear that it is a religion of peace after making the distinction between the message and the messenger. The messenger was not peaceful, but Islam by definition does not mean "submission" but rather peace. For me, it is a religion of peace and its vision is of peace no doubt about it.

First you tried to argue Muhammed only went to war defensively

I stand by it.

you deflected on the issue of his 9-year old wife

I did not. He married her. This is a problem for you, not for me.

Greeks invented anal and samurai had the Shudo tradition. What's your point? It was only 10 years later they were intimate.

I simply took issue with describing a warrior as a "Man of Peace".

Fair enough.