Rise of The Snake Cult [Concluded]

[johnhughthom]

Cass is lock town. As is El Barto now that GH flipped scum, based on the D1 vote.

This is why you never use day one votes as evidence in an org game

Vote: Golden1knight

[Raith Kemmler]

Why Golden Knight needs to die Part 2: Expanded Edition

I made a lengthy post on Day 2 pushing for GK to die. What follows looks ever so dirty. GK pushes past the meandering 1 and 2 vote wagons into the lead. And the dislike is palpable.

Brothers in negligence? I don't think they're coördinating anything.

Barto plays dumb and asks a bizarre interpretive question. Probably to try to taint the whole case.

Well, we'll see. Given that edse claims he was attacked, not all inactives can be mafia… well, it's unlikely.

Not even a real defense here, more a defense by association. Golden Knight isn't evil because...not all actives are. Duh.

It seems that I dug my own grave. That's what I get for coming out of the shadows lol

Golden1Knight is lynched. He was town.

Golden goes all maudlin in the thread.

And if Golden ain't scum…? btw thanks for making the waggon slightly more irreversible..

Elly begs the obvious question whenever you lynch like, anyone. Also gets a bit frustrated the wagon is taking off.

This post is all kinds weird even in this mafia hive of commentary.

For the record I don't like this lynch.

Evil Other Faction does not like this lynch. For Reasons!

Counterwaggon on either auto or jht, whichever you prefer…?

Which inactive townie would you prefer to kill on this fine day?

My vote's already on JHT. auto's going to be more responsive to game flow. JHT is going to be JHT.

Let's kill that guy. He hasn't posted a lot. The town won't question it.

Then unvote; vote:johnhughthom.

Sure. Die JHT. Die!

btw, landlubber, as third on the bandwaggon, you're obviously mafia.

Elly subtexts to alleviate pressure about obvious vote turn around.

In conclusion: Golden Knight needs to die.

[El Barto]

Go scum.

[Golden1Knight]

Excellent arguments. In your place I'd also vote for me.

It's funny to see how all the evidence points to me, really looks like a solved case. However, I'm sorry to disappoint, but this game does not end with my death. I don't know why GH and El Barto decided to protect me, I'm not aligned with the mafia. But now to business.

Nightbringer worked hard to clarify the overall situation and, since the Mafia benefits from chaos and confusion, I believe that he is townie.

Raith seems a bit clean too, since he would not need all this work to get a mislynch. Yet I'm still not sure about it, as a last mafia he would feel greater need to establish himself as townie, especially after Nightbringer's post.

Zain and Severingviper: they deserve a little more attention. Then, I'll vote: severingviper. I still think we should not waste this lynch with me anyway, but it just makes me look even guiltier. Oh well :P

[Raith Kemmler]

It's funny to see how all the evidence points to me, really looks like a solved case. However, I'm sorry to disappoint, but this game does not end with my death. I don't know why GH and El Barto decided to protect me, I'm not aligned with the mafia.

Are you GH's third party buddy then? And he convinced Elly to go along with it? I will change my vote if you can give me another explanation for that weird ass vote moment. It can't just be a frame job on you, that's a lot of risk with little reward. So either they were protecting you, or getting something else. Or they just like to run around changing wagons because they really didn't feel good?/sarcasm

Raith seems a bit clean too, since he would not need all this work to get a mislynch. Yet I'm still not sure about it, as a last mafia he would feel greater need to establish himself as townie, especially after Nightbringer's post.

However, I'm sorry to disappoint, but this game does not end with my death.

Uh, okay. Who said anything about the game ending with your lynch? How on earth did you come to the conclusion we've reached endgame at all with a revealed third party probably infiltrating the mafia in a closed set up?

Is there an ironclad mafia ratio on the org? Or does this thought look like a bizarre assumption to anyone else?

[Nightbringer]

Are you GH's third party buddy then? And he convinced Elly to go along with it? I will change my vote if you can give me another explanation for that weird ass vote moment. It can't just be a frame job on you, that's a lot of risk with little reward. So either they were protecting you, or getting something else. Or they just like to run around changing wagons because they really didn't feel good?/sarcasm





Uh, okay. Who said anything about the game ending with your lynch? How on earth did you come to the conclusion we've reached endgame at all with a revealed third party probably infiltrating the mafia in a closed set up?

Is there an ironclad mafia ratio on the org? Or does this thought look like a bizarre assumption to anyone else?

There isn't an ironclad ratio, but 4 mafia in a game this size does feel about right. 5 would be 25% of the player base.

[Golden1Knight]

Are you GH's third party buddy then? And he convinced Elly to go along with it? I will change my vote if you can give me another explanation for that weird ass vote moment. It can't just be a frame job on you, that's a lot of risk with little reward. So either they were protecting you, or getting something else. Or they just like to run around changing wagons because they really didn't feel good?/sarcasm

I highlighted the correct answer. I'm just a townie, not even third party, if I claimed such a thing maybe I would be able to fool you for some time and try avoid death, but to claim to be third party is like asking to be eliminated by both town and mafia. In Pirate Ship III we had an excellent example of fake role, which went unnoticed until the end of the game, but this is a case apart and required some skill and experience.

Uh, okay. Who said anything about the game ending with your lynch? How on earth did you come to the conclusion we've reached endgame at all with a revealed third party probably infiltrating the mafia in a closed set up?

Is there an ironclad mafia ratio on the org? Or does this thought look like a bizarre assumption to anyone else?

In the last two games (and the only ones in which I participated), there were only three mafia.

[Winston Hughes]

Zain went nowhere again last night.

[Winston Hughes]

Raith's case on GK is decent enough, but I'm sticking with vote: SeveringViper for now. I just can't see a town mind at work in his posts, whereas GK is giving at least a passable impression.

[edse]

Excellent arguments. In your place I'd also vote for me.

It's funny to see how all the evidence points to me, really looks like a solved case. However, I'm sorry to disappoint, but this game does not end with my death. I don't know why GH and El Barto decided to protect me, I'm not aligned with the mafia. But now to business.

Nightbringer worked hard to clarify the overall situation and, since the Mafia benefits from chaos and confusion, I believe that he is townie.

Raith seems a bit clean too, since he would not need all this work to get a mislynch. Yet I'm still not sure about it, as a last mafia he would feel greater need to establish himself as townie, especially after Nightbringer's post.

Zain and Severingviper: they deserve a little more attention. Then, I'll vote: severingviper. I still think we should not waste this lynch with me anyway, but it just makes me look even guiltier. Oh well :P

The tone in this message sounds very scummy to me, so it's my gut feeling to Vote: Golden1Knight.

Damn you Winston, I had a perfect tally coming up.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

3 SeveringViper: Zain, Nightbringer, Golden1Knight
3 Zain: Jarema, SeveringViper, Al Sipsclar
3 Golden1Knight: Raith Kemmler, johnhughthom, edse

3 No Vote: Winston Hughes, autolycus, Cass

Current tally
4 SeveringViper: Zain, Nightbringer, Golden1Knight, Winston Hughes
3 Zain: Jarema, SeveringViper, Al Sipsclar
3 Golden1Knight: Raith Kemmler, johnhughthom, edse

2 No Vote: autolycus, Cass

[Al Sipsclar]

Bummer about El Barto. Interesting that I got answers for all the three I was unsure about.

This is why you never use day one votes as evidence in an org game

I like the posts today. I'll Vote: Zain for the moment. I can also support Golden's lynch. I feel better about SV now that he's posting.