Scientific Dishonesty

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Ah, Hell.

Not a fan - and I don't call it "Hell" to be flippant either.

I also don't think it's possible - the post-human utopia is just that, it's not human and it's not anywhere you'll ever find on a map.

I also don't see why this would be desirable.

I could write more but you might as well just read "Brave New World" or "Forever Free".

[Montmorency]

No no no, the point is not a specific social or political outcome, but a passing of Human civilization and experience.

Here:

The highest species concept may be that of a terrestrial rational being; however, we shall not be able to name its character because we have no knowledge of non-terrestrial rational beings that would enable us to indicate their characteristic property and so to characterize this terrestrial being among rational beings in general. It seems, therefore, that the problem of indicating the character of the human species is absolutely insoluble, because the solution would have to be made through experience by means of the comparison of two species of rational being, but experience does not offer us this. (Kant: Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View, 225)

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

You think the End of Humanity isn't Hell?

A rather obvious answer to his question would be the way we treat Whales, we're fairly certain they're sentient but we still kill and eat them. It's unlikely we'll even recognise or acknowledge alien sentience if we encounter it unless it's so similar to our own that it doesn't fundamentally challenge our modes of thought.

[HopAlongBunny]

You think the End of Humanity isn't Hell?

A rather obvious answer to his question would be the way we treat Whales, we're fairly certain they're sentient but we still kill and eat them. It's unlikely we'll even recognise or acknowledge alien sentience if we encounter it unless it's so similar to our own that it doesn't fundamentally challenge our modes of thought.

Nice but you didn't go far enough. Whales? Why not just the poor. To be excluded from ethical thought (in a practical not abstract context) it is enough that we do not belong to the same "tribe" within society.
I think Nietzsche had something to say on this point.

[a completely inoffensive name]

The beauty of philosophy is partly because of seemingly intractable questions.

It's a constant exercise in assessing the limitations of our knowledge and the assumptions we use when we make value judgments.

This pop-sci "IT WORKS BITCHES" garbage is going to self detonate eventually and real science will unfairly be caught in the cross-fire.

[Greyblades]

The things discussed in this thread both confuse and scare me.