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    It is however not a binding treaty. A lot of non-binding things come out of the UN. Most multilateral binding treaties have systems in place to enforce the same, as for example the ECHR does, this does not, for the reason that it is not binding.
    I don't think you understand what binding but not enforceable means.

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    I don't think you understand what binding but not enforceable means.
    And I am certain that you do not grasp the concept of binding.

    Now, if you lock yourself in the bathroom, has the Serbian government detained you?

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    And I am certain that you do not grasp the concept of binding.
    Really? Well, if you say so.

    Now, if you lock yourself in the bathroom, has the Serbian government detained you?
    What has that got do to with anything?

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    What has that got do to with anything?
    It has everything to do with this. If you voluntarily of your own free will decide to stay in a house for years and years, nobody has detained you.

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    It has everything to do with this. If you voluntarily of your own free will decide to stay in a house for years and years, nobody has detained you.
    If I have reason to believe that my personal safety and human rights are threatened, that I won't be given a fair trial, I have every right to run away or lock myself in a safe place.

    That was the standard for many political activists and western nations, UK and Sweden included, accepted that when it happened in the rest of the world. When it happened in their own country, with their own citizens, well... It again shows that democracy and human rights never had anything to do with anything, but you go on.

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    Noone cares what the UN says unless it aligns with their interests.

    And indeed we could not extradite him to the US, we have to return him to the UK when we are done with him.
    If my memory serves hes not scared that the swedes will give him up hes scared the americans will grab him in transit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    If I have reason to believe that my personal safety and human rights are threatened, that I won't be given a fair trial, I have every right to run away or lock myself in a safe place.

    That was the standard for many political activists and western nations, UK and Sweden included, accepted that when it happened in the rest of the world. When it happened in their own country, with their own citizens, well... It again shows that democracy and human rights never had anything to do with anything, but you go on.
    Like I said, he needs treatment for his mental illness that he is clearly suffering from. He has already been given 6 fair trials, there is no reason to believe the other ones would not be fair. He has no reason to believe his safety is under threat. No fair trial, really? Puhlease.
    As far as I know he is neither a citizen of Sweden or the UK, but I'm sure you know better, claiming that treaties you have not read are binding.

    The claimed reason is that the State of Sweden has not given the individual Assange a guarantee that we will interfere in a legal process to make illegal decisions violating actual binding international law.

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