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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Second, where is the passage of "He had promised to destroy ISIS and withdrew in half a year"? Limited frame work? or "will continue only while the Syrian army conducts its anti-terrorist offensive"
    This is the core of most of your contributions. You just don't read them and most of the time your links show exactly the reverse of what you are saying...
    "Not that it contains the words "I promise", but it forwards the purpose of Russian mission in Syria - to destroy terrorists. Were they all destroyed?" So he didn't promise, and there is no time frame, so the objective is still valid. Are the terrorists still there, yes, but again, as stated in his speech, it is in helping Assad. So, your point is invalid.
    This is the core of your reaction - to misinterpret (whether intentionally, or because of inability to comprehend grammar) what I said. Now I repeat: he had promised to destroy ISIS and withrdew in half a year. Your reading: he promised to destroy ISIS and to withdraw in half a year. Don't you see the difference between the first sentence where two successive actions are described and the second one where two infinitives specify the promise? Thus, I never claimed Putin set any timeframe for his operation. So your criticism is invalid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "He includes Sunni opposition into that category, yet Hezbollah is out of it." That is politic, and Hezbollah is actually not fighting the legitimate government of Syria, Saudis' sponsored terrorists groups are... He is technically right.

    "No ground operation?" Yeah, and? This is not related to the actual discussion. Does Putin sometimes lie, exaggerate, manipulate? Yes, as all politicians...

    "Assad captured Palmira AFTER Putin had proclaimed withdrawal." That is even better for Putin as it proves his strategy (long term) worked.
    All this was meant to say that Putin hasn't reached the goals he had claimed to set which amounts to an ostensible failure. The conclusion from the hypothetical experts that you denied.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    "I just wanted to say that fighting ISIS wasn't the reason why Putin started his Syrian operation" Yeap, he wants to keep his access to Mediterranean sea, to obliged the Western Powers to speak to him and forget about Crimea, and various others reasons.
    Yeah, they totally forgot about the Crimea:http://www.kyivpost.com/article/opin...ea-410786.html
    Last edited by Gilrandir; 03-28-2016 at 13:05.
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    The article exists for a reason yes, I did not write it...

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