SYRIA thread

[Husar]

So it's basically a super villain organization like Hydra now.
I heard their founder infiltrated the US presidency already.

[Fragony]

Hydra baby one more time

It is the Fuhrer of the reigh,oh yes, the Fuhrer of the reigh

get better

[Crandar]

Maybe daesh wouldn't be so strong, if YPG bothered to attack Hajin. It's been almost a year and still nothing, the Afrin excuse doesn't work anymore. Once they grabbed those oilfields in Deir Ezzor, after the controversial agreement with daesh in Raqqa, the Kurds pretty much ceased any offensive operations. Shamfur dispray, if you ask me.

[Tuuvi]

Maybe daesh wouldn't be so strong, if YPG bothered to attack Hajin. It's been almost a year and still nothing, the Afrin excuse doesn't work anymore. Once they grabbed those oilfields in Deir Ezzor, after the controversial agreement with daesh in Raqqa, the Kurds pretty much ceased any offensive operations. Shamfur dispray, if you ask me.

I think it still does, YPG needs US support both as protection against Turkey, who would probably invade the rest of YPG held areas if given the chance, and as leverage in negotiations with Assad. As soon as the threat of Daesh has subsided the US will drop YPG like a used rag and they will be helpless.

[Shaka_Khan]

[Tuuvi]

It's shameful how Trump has just thrown the Kurds to the wolves (ie Turkey) with no warning whatsoever after all the sacrifices they've made to defeat Daesh. If events in Afrin are any indication we can expect to see forced displacement and ethnic cleansing once Turkey invades. Not to mention the Syrian militias backed by Turkey have done a piss poor job of governing the areas they control and many have ties to Jihadists, so I wouldn't be surprised if this move inadvertently allows Daesh to revitalize and make a comeback. The YPG will probably turn to terrorism out of desperation as well, as they've done in Afrin. All in all it's a horrible situation for the people of Northern Syria who've enjoyed relative peace until now. The only way out is for them to cede everything to the Syrian government, which is a pretty raw deal considering that Assad is a tyrant who treated the Kurds horribly in the past.

[Fragony]

Not just Trump the whole West looks away from the misery of the Kurds.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It's shameful how Trump has just thrown the Kurds to the wolves (ie Turkey) with no warning whatsoever after all the sacrifices they've made to defeat Daesh. If events in Afrin are any indication we can expect to see forced displacement and ethnic cleansing once Turkey invades. Not to mention the Syrian militias backed by Turkey have done a piss poor job of governing the areas they control and many have ties to Jihadists, so I wouldn't be surprised if this move inadvertently allows Daesh to revitalize and make a comeback. The YPG will probably turn to terrorism out of desperation as well, as they've done in Afrin. All in all it's a horrible situation for the people of Northern Syria who've enjoyed relative peace until now. The only way out is for them to cede everything to the Syrian government, which is a pretty raw deal considering that Assad is a tyrant who treated the Kurds horribly in the past.

Local non-Kurdish rulers treating the Kurds horribly is a pretty common experience for the governments in that region. Arguably, it is one of the few long-term policy goals that they have shared and continue to share.

US governments have always been haphazard in their treatment of the Kurds, always deeming Kurdish needs secondary to the appeasement of Turkey or stability in Syria and Iraq. You can add in Bush 41's famous gaffe where he implied we would support a rebellion effort which the Kurd's took for a promise and not rhetoric and got quite a few Kurds dead for their trouble.

Oh, and you can add in Trump's depth of experience with international affairs () and geopolitics into the mix.