Baktria missions and reform

[bornloser]

I apologize in advance if this is already flagged.

I'm playing as Baktria in v2.1b

When I finished the first mission from AS (take 2 forts and beat 2 armies) I got the Mission Failed event, followed by the Mission Accomplished Event, then the next mission comes up. So not sure if my success was counted or not.

I failed some of the other missions and accomplished others. So neither total failure nor total success there.

When I felt confident enough to become independent I stopped paying tribute the two years and AS declared war. Then the punitive expeditionary force army appeared and I wiped it out in a pitched battle. Over the next 20 turns I took 5 settlements from AS and beat them in a dozen battles. At some point during that war, I got the "rejoin the fold" event and declined it. Several turns later I got a different event, saying the Basileus of AS views me as a serious challenge and that I should stop the war. I declined, looking for the recognition event. The serious challenge event then repeated over and over again no matter how many further battles I won or further settlements I took.

Can't figure out how to trigger the recognition event. Any clues or is this a bug?

[QuintusSertorius]

Bugs, which should be fixed in 2.2.

[bornloser]

great, thanks.

as an aside, i must say that i've been playing eb since 2005 or 2006 and Baktria (along with everything else) has come a really long way. The attention that the team has given to regional units and government types makes it a completely different and immersive experience. It's great to have a highly heterogeneous army recruited from different regions and cultures. During my wars with AS, I had about equal proportions of native baktrians, persians, greeks, and saka. The availability and cost of these units is very well balanced in my opinion. It encourages the regional recruitment; factional development takes a long time and a lot of money which isn't available during extended conflict or fighting on two fronts.

I also played a fairly long Pergamese campaign in 2.1b which felt entirely different. The pre-existing hellenic infrastructure and hellenic culture in anatolia and pergamon's ability to build higher-order government types (than baktria) stimulated strong factional development. I didn't use anywhere near the number of regional troops.

This is all to say, great job. The factions should play differently and they do.

[QuintusSertorius]

The final piece of that Hellenistic composition - the polis - has been regionalised in 2.2 as well. So not only will governments and colonies give you different units depending on where you build them, but the polis will too.

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

As an aside, but following on from the notion of different experiences for different factions: playing as Makedonia, my capital, Pella, seems to be treated as some sort of administered, colonial settlement. I've sort of role played that the colony buildings represent the rural communities coming to re-establish the urban population/aristocracy. Will there be any changes to this in 2.2 or is this intentional for Makedonia?

Also, just as feedback on AI activity; I'm 30 years into my campaign. The Aedui have taken over most of Northern Europe, the Lusitani have blitzed Hispania (though the Areuaki are holding on), Hayasdan have cut a swathe through Seleucid lands but Rome have literally done nothing. They are in exactly the same position as at the beginning of the game. I've not interfered with Italy at all, I weakened the Epirotes and Rome finished them off at Taras, but then Taras rebelled to the Eleutheroi and Rome have done nothing since to regain it.

[anubis88]

Reogranization of Roman armies has fixed this now it seems. In the testing i did Rome conquered Taras and Rhegium in the first 5-10 turns every time and started looking at sicily, so we managed to make them not attacking the north while going for historical expansion. At least at the game start.

For Makedonia i'll let others comment

[QuintusSertorius]

As an aside, but following on from the notion of different experiences for different factions: playing as Makedonia, my capital, Pella, seems to be treated as some sort of administered, colonial settlement. I've sort of role played that the colony buildings represent the rural communities coming to re-establish the urban population/aristocracy. Will there be any changes to this in 2.2 or is this intentional for Makedonia?

That is actually intentional; Antigonos had only just moved back into Pella in 272BC having reclaimed the Makedonian throne and driven out the Celtic invaders. It was very much a place under reconstruction at the start of the game.