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Thread: Baktria missions and reform
aljaskuszobab 02:21 04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Suetonius:
Re: loyalty, I started a separate thread "Any tips on nurturing loyalty?", though it's not specific to Baktria
Hey, yeah, I saw your thread but I'm also playing a campaign with Epeiros and I didn't have a single traitor, not even after Pyrrhos died and I began using lower influence/loyalty leaders and generals (at this point I'm playing with my third faction leader). Therefore, I assumed my problem must be something specific to Baktria.

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bornloser 07:59 04-12-2016
aljaskuszobab thats pretty wild. I think I only had one army desert during my whole baktrian campaign. I fought the seleukids, pahlavas, india, sakas, everyone. Anything you could describe about your situation when they were deserting? For me I've noticed it when I had an uneducated FM with a really big stack and low loyalty.

Did they go to rebels or actually bribed by AI? cant remember seeing the latter option

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aljaskuszobab 17:34 04-12-2016
Originally Posted by bornloser:
aljaskuszobab thats pretty wild. I think I only had one army desert during my whole baktrian campaign. I fought the seleukids, pahlavas, india, sakas, everyone. Anything you could describe about your situation when they were deserting? For me I've noticed it when I had an uneducated FM with a really big stack and low loyalty.

Did they go to rebels or actually bribed by AI? cant remember seeing the latter option
The only common things were the size of the army (it was always more or less a full stack) and that it happened in enemy territory during war. Education and loyalty varied, but loyalty was always the highest available. Three full stacks is not the end of the world at the current stage of my campaign, it just makes fighting wars very frustrating. Distances between cities are massive in that part of the map and regions are poorly developed so it takes very long to train a new army and get them to the city where my previous army deserted.

To put it in perspective, I won the long campaign with Epeiros on the same difficulty (medium) doing everything the same way and I had only one traitor full stack throughout the campaign, even though I fought on pretty much every coast of the Mediterranean Sea.

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aljaskuszobab 17:36 04-12-2016
Originally Posted by aljaskuszobab:
To put it in perspective,
I meant "to put the number of traitors in perspective". I have three now.

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bornloser 17:40 04-13-2016
the only thing i can think of is that its dependent on the faction leader. maybe sometimes we get a guy with some set of bad traits or low authority/influence and it interacts with the guys leading field armies and they go rogue. im not sure how to test that, but its all i can think of.

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aljaskuszobab 20:13 04-20-2016
Originally Posted by bornloser:
the only thing i can think of is that its dependent on the faction leader. maybe sometimes we get a guy with some set of bad traits or low authority/influence and it interacts with the guys leading field armies and they go rogue. im not sure how to test that, but its all i can think of.
I recently started a campaign with Carthage and I just had the most extreme case of generals turning traitors so far in EBII.

I beat pretty much everyone in North Africa, Spain, Italy and France and then I reached Britain. Until that point I had no problem with traitors. I decided to invade Britain so I built up 5 full stacks and shipped them over on the island. In 5 turns, I had only 1 stack because of generals turning traitors every turn. My faction leader did not die, he has been the same for a while.

The only thing that I can think of is that distance influences the probabilty of becoming traitor but it's pretty much game breaking if the effect is so extreme. Anyway, I'll move this discussion to the other thread because apparently my problem is not Baktria related.

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