IKEA mafia [Concluded]

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-11-2016, 20:22

Remember when you had half a day to make a non-harebrained defense and you decided to waste time and spam about pretzels?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-11-2016, 20:24

By half a day, I mean half a day phase. Over 24 hours.

**Zack** · 04-11-2016, 20:25

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Remember when you had half a day to make a non-harebrained defense and you decided to waste time and spam about pretzels?

Is that wolfy of me?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-11-2016, 20:31

Originally Posted by AdmiralKleenex

Is that wolfy of me?

You get to make your own defense. You tell folks why it's not wolfy.

I have my opinion and it matches my vote.

**Zack** · 04-11-2016, 20:35

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You get to make your own defense. You tell folks why it's not wolfy.

I have my opinion and it matches my vote.

I already did. #443

You always love to go on and on about past meta, and you are actively ignoring it here. I have done way more to defend myself than Jarrema, for example.

Considering that most of the players in this game have posted less overall than I have in the last ten minutes, your attempts to shame me won't work. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done this game, I regret nothing.

I'm not going to pretend I'm a power role, because I'm not, I'm just vanilla. So I apologize for failing to magically divine that you were a mason.

**Zack** · 04-11-2016, 20:49

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You get to make your own defense. You tell folks why it's not wolfy.

I have my opinion and it matches my vote.

I'm interested to hear your take on why scumzack peaces out for an extend period of time with no excuse. I'm guessing you probably think it's a ploy of some kind. You should know that when I am scum, I have an obsessive need to refute a case like that.

This whole thing reminds me of the half-monty game you hosted.

**Zack** · 04-11-2016, 20:50

fwiw I think el barto is howling. This is really out-of-character for him if he's town.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-11-2016, 21:03

Originally Posted by AdmiralKleenex

I'm interested to hear your take on why scumzack peaces out for an extend period of time with no excuse.

I don't know what to think.

From my POV I see the game unfolding as it has been, and your behavior doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The best person to explain it to me is you.

Your meta isn't as simple as knowing it and going ah that's scum zack or town zack. I've seen you be low-posting and snarky, low-posting and serious, heavy posting and snarky, heavy posting and combative, heavy posting and diplomatic and lighthearted, as every alignment.

Scum Zack is a lot of different personalities.

I make a guess, I lay it out. It's up to town Zack to help me through my mistake at that point. I'm willing to listen. Even at this point in the game, after many attempts to hear you out have resulted in lolpretzels and you'll feel like such an idiot, and you're a liar about wanting to town with me posts. (etc)

I'm still here, listening. Waiting for town Zack to help me understand.

What I'm getting in the past 24 hours and now is a lot of stuff that's just more confusing to me and less than constructive.

Not trying to shame you. Just letting you know why this is a struggle on my end.

**Zack** · 04-11-2016, 21:14

Fine, I'll try to walk you through my thoughts on my behavior.

Look at half Monty. I survived that huge diy case (as town) and ended up being lynchbait all game, to the point where I and others wondered if it simply would have been better if I'd been lynched early on.

I don't want to be lynchbait, I don't want to have to keep fighting off votes all game, and town can obviously survive ad1 mislynch. I figured your mind was set, and honestly I WAS peeved at you for the Skype thing, because you made it seem like manipulative bs. And I didn't want to deal with an angry pizza tunneling me all game, because I lose that battle 100% of the time, especially on the org.

Go up and count the number of people whose only posts this phase are to vote me with little thought and leave. I don't want to deal with that as town. I really don't.

Later I came back and got to work because I'm me and I can't just do nothing, no matter how much I want to.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-11-2016, 21:16

Originally Posted by AdmiralKleenex

I don't want to be lynchbait, I don't want to have to keep fighting off votes all game, and town can obviously survive ad1 mislynch. I figured your mind was set, and honestly I WAS peeved at you for the Skype thing, because you made it seem like manipulative bs. And I didn't want to deal with an angry pizza tunneling me all game, because I lose that battle 100% of the time, especially on the org.

Just fyi, and so you'll know when the game is over and I confirm it, I don't lie to people outside of games to prep a scum tactic in future game.

As much as I give of myself to these games I ultimately don't care about them. My goal in these settings is social. I'd rather lose every game than make my friends dislike me.