IKEA mafia [Concluded]

[atheotes]

What does the existence of a vig have to do with it? I don't see pizza doing that as punisher's teammate, because killing one outs the other. We could have gotten the same result from lynching punisher.

Provided he gets lynched. It would be a gamble which pizza is capable of taking...

[Golden1Knight]

Vote: edse

[edse]

What? I tied Punisher for the lynch yesterday but Pizza saved him in the last minutes.

[edse]

Vote: Visor, his claim doesn't hold water at all.

[edse]

I know, without a doubt, that Visor killed johnhughthom.

[Sooh]

Votes:

GH (1) - El Barto

El Barto (2) - Al Sips, atheotes

edse (4) - Eldrick, Askthepizzaguy, GH, Golden1Knight

Visor (1) - edse

Not voting: Raith Kemmler, BSmith, Visor

[atheotes]

I know, without a doubt, that Visor killed johnhughthom.

hmm...interesting. I do see the probability.
Are you saying Visor did not kill Punisher or are you saying Visor killed John?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I know, without a doubt, that Visor killed johnhughthom.

Hardclaim something or my vote stays where it is.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yep, hard claim vigilante or be lynched basically. Or hard claim bus driver, either way.

Once that happens, we lynch outside of the claims, and the bus driver does nothing.

Then, scum and vig likely shoot each other, saving us from having to make the 50/50 call.

[BSmith]

Hardclaim something or my vote stays where it is.

I very much dislike role-fishing. vote: GH

[Visor]

I know, without a doubt, that Visor killed johnhughthom.

The only way I killed jht was if GeneralHankerchief was bus driven with gh

[Visor]

You do realise I claimed immediately and there is no countetclaim

So thinking otherwise is quite wrong

[GeneralHankerchief]

The only way I killed jht was if GeneralHankerchief was bus driven with gh

Once more, in English?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know, without a doubt, that Visor killed johnhughthom.

So, edse, what's all this about?

Vote Edse

[Golden1Knight]

Vote: BSmith

[Askthepizzaguy]

What? I tied Punisher for the lynch yesterday but Pizza saved him in the last minutes.

So go into more detail about your thought process in that moment. Why'd you tie up the votes there?

[edse]

So go into more detail about your thought process in that moment. Why'd you tie up the votes there?

To have a 50/50 situation and see if someone would brake it, which you did. Nothing more than that, I didn't have a strong case against either (although Punisher fitted in the same category as Visor, with my "horrible reasoning")

[atheotes]

unvote, vote: Double A

vetoed.

What was your rationale behind this vote? Why did you not want a tie between Punisher and Double A?

[Eldrick]

unvote

edse voted for Punisher to tie with AA. I don't see him doing that if he's Punisher's teammate.

[Eldrick]

You're right. Pizza is capable of taking that risk. And I really don't like all this role hunting he's doing. Trying to get the vig and bus driver to claim.

Pizza

[Eldrick]

Vote: Pizza

Don't know if you guys are picky about format here. Sooh knows I'm used to DM tags.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Provided he gets lynched. It would be a gamble which pizza is capable of taking...

I want to be very clear about this, because it's a core principle of my play that won't ever change.

Core principles so far:

1) It is okay for people to guess wrong. Berating them in postgame or insulting them personally is not kosher in my play style.
2) If you are the real cop, faking guilty results on people is extremely extremely bad for the game, as is faking good results.
3) Claiming mason on day one as mafia and having an actual mafia partner verify that you are his mason partner is the single stupidest idea that has ever been conceived of.

I can probably cite you many instances of me laughing at the idea of claiming mason on d1 as mafia, especially under no pressure, time pressure or vote pressure.

And it's come up in many games after that, even if there aren't masons. Pointing out how I've been lynched on d1 as a claimed mason under no time pressure as the single worst thing that village has ever done.

There are some rules I just don't break. Even if they're rules I made for myself.

[atheotes]

I want to be very clear about this, because it's a core principle of my play that won't ever change.

Core principles so far:

1) It is okay for people to guess wrong. Berating them in postgame or insulting them personally is not kosher in my play style.
2) If you are the real cop, faking guilty results on people is extremely extremely bad for the game, as is faking good results.
3) Claiming mason on day one as mafia and having an actual mafia partner verify that you are his mason partner is the single stupidest idea that has ever been conceived of.

I can probably cite you many instances of me laughing at the idea of claiming mason on d1 as mafia, especially under no pressure, time pressure or vote pressure.

And it's come up in many games after that, even if there aren't masons. Pointing out how I've been lynched on d1 as a claimed mason under no time pressure as the single worst thing that village has ever done.

There are some rules I just don't break. Even if they're rules I made for myself.

Hey, i am not voting for you. I am just saying I am not clearing you yet. Anyways, pt. 3 is just hyperbole. Any idea that works is not stupid.

fwiw, i dont read Edse as scum. he is town in my book.