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    Default Re: Sound and Fury-Signifying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    It's all okay though, since this was all pre WW1, we got it "in under teh lock" so we cool.
    Not sure why the West thinks that the rules changed, the rules remain the same, just because Western Europe and the US doesn't partake doesn't make conquest any less true or legitimate than it has in the past. Tibet was forcefully 'repatriated' by the PRC. North Vietnam did forcibly 'reunify' the South. The current PRC policy in the South China Sea and the de facto annexation of Crimea show that hasn't changed. The Iraq War and subsequent Syrian/ISIS crisis has an ongoing genocide on both sides that will award territory to the 'victors' again. If Argentina had won the Falklands War the UN wouldn't give two licks about the 'illegal imperial britons' that would be evicted. If the US and Coalition nations hadn't forced Saddam out of Kuwait no amount of sanctions and harmless condemning declarations would have returned Kuwaiti sovereignty.

    Why is Israel somehow the bad guy for doing what everyone else has done and continues to do except a lot more light-handedly. If Israel had been wiped out in '48, '67, or '73 no one would be forcing the Palestinians to allow Jewish communities to exist just like no one cried over the forced expulsion of Jews throughout the middle east following the establishment of Israel. I actually agree with Greyblades wholeheartedly on this and wish that the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza were relocated to Egypt/Jordan and compensated for loss of homes in land or money.

    The forced expulsion of ethnic germans from Czechoslovakia certainly ended any issues over the Sudetenlands. The exchange of Turks and Greeks between the two countries in '23 and after has certainly made it far less likely for war between the two again (unless Cyprus throws us another loop).

    The two state solution will always fail seeing as Israel will see it's neighbor as a knife to its throat while the other sees no right for Israel to exist.
    Last edited by spmetla; 01-14-2017 at 03:47.

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