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That’s true, but Jordan isn’t an apartheid state, probably more free than Israel for everybody living there. It’s also worth noting that this is around the time that Israel, with their phalangist allies, targeted Palestinian refugee camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_...atila_massacre
Sure, though there isnt much in the way of free speech but I suppose in the grand scheme of things thats better than most in the region.

There’s no need to say anything, he has been constantly demonized even before he was as big of an asshole as he is now, just for taking a stance. You’d be surprised how free pre-war Syria was, you could be openly atheist and even write a book about it. Does Netanyahu not deserve to be treated similarly? Why isn't he demonized?
So free that you can protest without being fired upon by the military?

And people do demonize Bibi. A lot. I strongly dislike the man and he has done terrible things, but now you are doing what Israel's apologists do- point fingers at others to deflect criticism.

Of course there’s little proof that they funded them, but they obviously knew about it and went along with it to pull the rug from under a once stable Syrian government.
So why did you say that they were funding them earlier.

Token or not, they have a multi religious and multiethnic military and political system. Shia Islam is the official state religion, and everything else including Sunni Islam is relegated. Still, equality in Iran is better because they have a more inclusive society. How is it listed as "free" in Freedom House when 1/3 of the population can't vote based on their ethnicity? Should be "partially free," not free.
Well first off, the 1/3 statistic is if you include everyone in the West Bank and Gaza. They arent citizens, and dont get to vote in Israeli elections. Yes, the military occupation of the West Bank is bad, and needs to end. So does the stranglehold over Gaza. But at the same time they arent Israeli citizens which is why pretty much all human rights organizations who deal with that area list Israel as being "free" in that regard.

Gonna have to agree to disagree, Hezbollah’s involvement is totally up for debate.
So besides the fact that in this case pretty much all the evidence pointed to Hezbollah involvement, theres a whole bunch of other terror attacks I can list that were linked to Hezbollah. But really it is coming across that you simply deny the fact that Hezbollah is, at its core, a terrorist organization.

These are all admirable traits of Israeli society, but what do those rights mean when they were built on the backs of people whose self-determination was taken away from them? It’s as much a dictatorship as a lot of its neighbors, to people that are under its occupation. Israel is an apartheid state, and to say it’s any better than the likes of Tunisia or even the monarchies is not accurate.
Yes, and its a real issue that the world and Israel have to deal with (though Bibi isnt a dictator nor do I think that Israel is truly an apartheid state but whatever). But at the same time, don't whitewash the crimes of their neighbors when going after the crimes of Israel.