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    Default Re: What would non-anti-semitic criticism of Israel look like?

    Well, we know they funded FSA and they are pretty much Islamist, since they’re affiliated with a whole lot of other subgroups with fascist charters. US’s allies, like Qatar and Turkey, support AQ groups like Al Nusra. These moderate rebels you’re talking....who the hell knows who they are, man.
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    There are "good" parts to Iranian FP, I just do not think that its all sunshine and roses like you seem to think. I think you whitewash when you find something which you disagree with. Such as Hezbollah.
    Me saying it’s not a terror org isn’t whitewashing.

    And no, it’s not sunshine and roses but it’s better, the results they got speak for themselves. It's proven to be safer, no need to sidestep that.
    On a certain level, both issues are disputed if we are going by your logic. Because there are countries who do object to the idea that Israel is apartheid and whatnot.
    Okay, here’s what you said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy
    Well, yes. The international community has for the most part agreed that Hezbollah at the very least has parts of it which engage in terrorist activities. The same international community which has condemned Israel for its crimes. You cant ignore the opinion of the international community when its not convenient for you.
    Israeli war crimes = acknowledged by everyone
    Hezbollah labelling = disputed

    And you’re right, not everybody considers it apartheid. On the other hand, apartheid is easier to spot since terrorism doesn’t really mean anything.

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    Default Re: What would non-anti-semitic criticism of Israel look like?

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    Me saying it’s not a terror org isn’t whitewashing.
    To you maybe.

    And no, it’s not sunshine and roses but it’s better, the results they got speak for themselves. It's proven to be safer, no need to sidestep that.
    Maybe safer. They are still pariahs to an extent, and only beginning to shed that label with the recent nuclear deal.

    Israeli war crimes = acknowledged by everyone
    Hezbollah labelling = disputed
    I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was pointing out that most of the same people who call out Israel for their crimes are also the ones who say that Hezbollah at the very least has elements which engage in terrorist activities. Some go further and label the whole thing as a terror organization but some which just label certain parts of Hezbollah, acknowledging the fact that there are parts of the group which actually do good for the Lebanese people.

    On the other hand, apartheid is easier to spot since terrorism doesn’t really mean anything.
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