Turkey Thread

[Gilrandir]

Turkey is a military ally of NATO and NATO is not the EU. Being in a good position to nuke the USSR is not the same as having a good human rights record or promising future in that regard.

Technically. Yet both consist of almost the same countries (Norway is in NATO, but not in the EU, and some others -vice versa). Thus values of both neatly match.

If Russia sells us gas for 40 years, did they earn their right to be in the EU for having been such a reliable business partner for 40 years?

Since Putin has fully embraced power business is subordinated to politics. He is prone to overlook agreements (including the business ones - look at his anti-Turky sanctions) or use business to promote his political agenda (like his gas blackmailing Ukraine - and Europe suffered that winter, btw).

They kept millions of Germans warm in the winter for 40 years after all!

It is atonement for freezing millions (?) of Germans in 1941.

Generally, you should ween yourself off this and diversify. When business intertwines with state policy it doesn't bode well for any business partner.

We also have more common basic standards with Russia than the US: the meter, the liter, the gram...

The British also have a wrongly-placed steering wheel in their cars... Wait, they do have to Brexit and join Japan or something.

Saying Turkey should reform one way or another isn't realistic.

It's Erdogan who is a F5 vicious circle. Turkey is getting isolated yes, I feel sorry for modern Turks

Are we still discussing Turkey or Russia?