Turkey Thread

[Husar]

They are not friends I don't know them very well. But integration being discouraged is no secret.

Discouraged by whom and how? And why are people afraid?

[Fragony]

Discouraged by whom and how? And why are people afraid?

Don't know why they are afraid I didn't ask, it was a loose comment in a conversation that was about something else. If I had to speculate the grey wolves. But Ankara has a big hairy arm in Turkish communities especially in your Germany

[Husar]

Don't know why they are afraid I didn't ask, it was a loose comment in a conversation that was about something else. If I had to speculate the grey wolves. But Ankara has a big hairy arm in Turkish communities especially in your Germany

I heard most of the "Turks" here are Kurds anyway, it was a loose comment I heard somewhere but it proves that it's not an issue.

[Fragony]

It's just an anecdote, they were having a conversation on why so many Dutch Turks were so fond of Erdogan, I was talking with someone else and overheard it. But don't underestimate Ankara's reach.

Article from Spiegel that at least kinda adresses it http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-898116.html

[Lizardo]

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[Fragony]

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Sums it up lol, sadly eurpopeans are addicted to compromise, they are like housemoms negotiating with their annoying kids.

[Husar]

Sums it up lol, sadly eurpopeans are addicted to compromise, they are like housemoms negotiating with their annoying kids.

Yeah, if only they were more like Saudi Arabians or North Koreans, the world could be a better place.
Oh wait, too absurd? So what do you mean then?

[Furunculus]

if turkey has turned away from western liberal democracy then it is in part the eu's fault.

this was not the attitude taken with the balkans, and turkey earned its place in the eu with 40 years on nato's front line.

[Husar]

It's just an anecdote, they were having a conversation on why so many Dutch Turks were so fond of Erdogan, I was talking with someone else and overheard it. But don't underestimate Ankara's reach.

Article from Spiegel that at least kinda adresses it http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-898116.html

That is influence and that was already known, not sure why you would say I don't know that when we had such topics before and I said Erdogan telling Germany how to go about integration is pretty idiotic and an overreach...

[Fragony]

That is influence and that was already known, not sure why you would say I don't know that when we had such topics before and I said Erdogan telling Germany how to go about integration is pretty idiotic and an overreach...

Don't remember these topics but I guess we agree on that then. Topic was more about the direction Turkey is going right now, Erdogan is a bit of a madman, we used to have the Turkey's army as a reliabeble partner, they would make sure nobody gets too much power.