Turkey Thread

[Husar]

So being one of the top three (?) trade partners, supporting European interests in the frontline of the most sensitive region, and having a potential democratic future isn’t enough to be promised something in the next few decades. You do realize that one of the initial aims of this whole thing was to provide incentive for reform? It’s torn between two worlds, and it basically got told to f off for not committing to anything at the doorstep right off the bat.

Eh, they were promised membership IF they would fulfill certain European values. You can't just promise something no matter what, where's the incentive then? Obviously even the incentive of membership was not big enough to make them stop the human rights abuses or to stop Erdogan from wanting more power for himself. When was it told to f off? It is already in the early stages of a membership process, it's just not progressing a lot because it's not willing to fulfill the criteria.

You can read more about it here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access...European_Union

Negotiations were started on 3 October 2005[6] and out of 35 Chapters necessary to complete the accession process, 15 have been opened and 1 has been closed.[7]

Maybe you should decide first whether the EU is a "value community" or a security community. I don't see Turkey totally abandoning its political Islam tendencies as that undermines its interesting position in the middle east.

That's already decided, you may have already noticed that Turkey is not in yet because providing security and money is not enough.
Several member states have had more or less undemocratic tendencies over the years and have been shunned or scolded for them just as well.
Turkey can keep whatever tendencies it wants, it may just never become an EU member then.