Brexit Thread

[Greyblades]

My selected skin is obviously the only one that can ever be used as a reference.

And your screen size, I dont count empty spaces when counting line sand teh first paragraph was short enough to only cover one line. Ach whatever.

Of course I didn't, don't you read Sarmatian's posts?

And people wonder why this forum is going down hill...

If 333,000 people come every year that you don't have houses for, why do you have only 50,000 homeless people?

I dont know, Honestly every source I find are contradictorary, guardan says 184,000 in 2013, while wikipedia says there were 54,430 homeless households in 2014, but only 498 people sleeping rough each night, while the guardian says 3,500 each night and that's not counting the increasing number of young adults working from thier parents homes instead of thier own because they cannot afford houses.

Why can immigrants be given 0 hour contracts if those are part of the issue?

...What makes you think they cant? 0 hour contracts and the like add to the problem because they do not provide a stable source of income required to maintain a household, it takes you off the unemployment list but can mean you can be only paid for anywhere as little as one hour of work each 6 months on a minimum wage. It pads the numbers of new jobs the government can tell the public it created without actually providing a proper source of income for the new "employee".

There's zero proof in your statement for any of what you say, you merely assume that a) it would be impossible to lower intra-EU migration in any way and b) that nothing can be done about the 50k homeless because too many immigrants are coming. What I want from you is that you explain why that is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...European_Union
When we joined the EU we agreed to the policy of freedom of movment for workers in the European Union, and that freedom means we cannot turn away EU migrants who can secure work, so no quota, no limitation, we must let them all in and mr camron could not or would not secure an exemption for the UK, the only option given to legally limit or halt immigration from the EU was to leave it.

Homelessness and unemployment cannot be solved if the need for jobs and houses out paces the supply, every new person in the country means one more person without a job, usually the local he is replacing because the employer is either too lazy to train or too stingy to pay. It is highly unlikely a good government could grow our economy fast enough to support the demands of such a fast growing population, let alone the lack-wit governments we were stuck choosing between a year ago.

Does the UK lack construction companies or does the EU enforce a limit on the number of new houses? Can the UK not use cheap immigrant labor on 0 hour contracts to build a lot of new houses? Why do 333,000 people come to the UK every year anyway and what happens if the population growth stops? Why does the UK let so many non-EU citizens immigrate if it is already overburdeened with EU immigrants and why would cutting the number of immigrants in half not help if you do not currently get >184,000 new homeless people every year?

The simple answer is our government is dominated by uncaring assholes who dont care about the issues of people poorer than themselves, be they champagne socialists or ivory tower conservatives.

[Pannonian]

And your screen size, I dont count empty spaces when counting line sand teh first paragraph was short enough to only cover one line. Ach whatever.

And people wonder why this forum is going down hill...

I dont know, Honestly every source I find are contradictorary, guardan says 184,000 in 2013, while wikipedia says there were 54,430 homeless households in 2014, but only 498 people sleeping rough each night, while the guardian says 3,500 each night and that's not counting the increasing number of young adults working from thier parents homes instead of thier own because they cannot afford houses.

...What makes you think they cant? 0 hour contracts and the like add to the problem because they do not provide a stable source of income required to maintain a household, it takes you off the unemployment list but can mean you can be only paid for anywhere as little as one hour of work each 6 months on a minimum wage. It pads the numbers of new jobs the government can tell the public it created without actually providing a proper source of income for the new "employee".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...European_Union
When we joined the EU we agreed to the policy of freedom of movment for workers in the European Union, and that freedom means we cannot turn away EU migrants who can secure work, so no quota, no limitation, we must let them all in and mr camron could not or would not secure an exemption for the UK, the only option given to legally limit or halt immigration from the EU was to leave it.

Homelessness and unemployment cannot be solved if the need for jobs and houses out paces the supply, every new person in the country means one more person without a job, usually the local he is replacing because the employer is either too lazy to train or too stingy to pay. It is highly unlikely a good government could grow our economy fast enough to support the demands of such a fast growing population, let alone the lack-wit governments we were stuck choosing between a year ago.

The simple answer is our government is dominated by uncaring assholes who dont care about the issues of people poorer than themselves, be they champagne socialists or ivory tower conservatives.

Are you aware that one of the gripes the right has with the EU is that it imposes regulations on employers? The EU, in common with most of the constituent countries, is socialist in nature (at least in comparison with the UK), working towards a tendency to regulate and enforce rights of the individual. The right wants rid of the EU to remove all these regulations and rights. Andrea Leadsom, one of the leading Brexiters, suggested removing all regulations for employers of small businesses, leaving their employees with no rights whatsoever. No minimum wage, unlimited hours, no environmental or H&S regulations, no nothing. That's the Brexit dream.

If your gripe is that the government doesn't care about people poorer than themselves, it's a bit ironic that you live in the UK and voted for Brexit.

[Greyblades]

What makes you think the EU care about people poorer than themselves? When they aid and abett a mass migration of foriegn young men with lower wage expectations and a tendency to molest rape and murder those who do not share thier belief system, without consulting the people they pretend to serve, they seem less caring as the worst of the Tories

One flavour of bastard over another, but the one I chose at least has a potential of change and a degree of control.

[Pannonian]

What makes you think the EU care about people poorer than themselves? When they aid and abett a mass migration of foriegn young men with lower wage expectations and a tendency to molest rape and murder those who do not share thier belief system, without consulting the people they pretend to serve, they seem less caring as the worst of the Tories

One flavour of bastard over another, but the one I chose at least has a potential of change and a degree of control.

When Andrea Leadsom says one way for small companies to cope with Brexit is to remove all regulations and employees' rights, it would suggest that the EU has a part in making sure these regulations and rights are there.