Brexit Thread

**Pannonian** · 10-16-2016, 22:01

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

The consequences have started to unravel - particularly in the economy. It will take some time until they fully do, it's still a long time until the Brexit finally happens, but it already started to show.

London will be a combination of still the top financial centre of the world and a place to run from.

And a lot of European financial hubs are trying to lure bankers away from London.

And Frag will be assuring us that Britain will be fine, even as he is keeping as far away from here as possible. Just like Nigel Farage telling us that the EU is evil and to be kept out of our lives, even as he is making sure that he can bring his kids up in Germany. If Frag is so fond of the idea of living outside the EU, he should move to the UK and put his money where his mouth is.

**Montmorency** · 10-16-2016, 22:10

And Frag will be assuring us that Britain will be fine, even as he is keeping as far away from here as possible.

That's rather unfair - he's just across the Channel.

**Pannonian** · 10-16-2016, 22:45

Originally Posted by Montmorency

That's rather unfair - he's just across the Channel.

A world away. He's living inside the EU, whilst assuring Brits that living outside the EU is preferable. If he believes it that strongly, all he has to do is move across the water (and it may be the North Sea at that point) and make his home in the post-EU utopia that he keeps assuring us is here. He's less bad than that hypocritical arsehole Farage in that he isn't actively trying to get out of here, but his constant reassurances about the UK are no less tiresome and for the same reason.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 10-17-2016, 02:54

Originally Posted by Pannonian

A world away. He's living inside the EU, whilst assuring Brits that living outside the EU is preferable. If he believes it that strongly, all he has to do is move across the water (and it may be the North Sea at that point) and make his home in the post-EU utopia that he keeps assuring us is here. He's less bad than that hypocritical arsehole Farage in that he isn't actively trying to get out of here, but his constant reassurances about the UK are no less tiresome and for the same reason.

That's a very mercenary view - maybe he's like Kadagar and wants freedom for his own people, and not just the Brits? Or maybe you forgot there's a difference between being English and being Dutch?

If so I suggest you spend some time outside the big cosmopolitan cities.

**Pannonian** · 10-17-2016, 09:18

Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

That's a very mercenary view - maybe he's like Kadagar and wants freedom for his own people, and not just the Brits? Or maybe you forgot there's a difference between being English and being Dutch?

If so I suggest you spend some time outside the big cosmopolitan cities.

One of liberalism's ideals is self determination, something that English culture also strongly believes in, although in that case it's known as minding one's own business. I've spent some time in Holland, and I enjoy the place, but I wouldn't dream of telling them what's right for them. Their affairs are their own business, not mine.

**Sarmatian** · 10-17-2016, 13:22

Originally Posted by Pannonian

One of liberalism's ideals is self determination, something that English culture also strongly believes in, although in that case it's known as minding one's own business. I've spent some time in Holland, and I enjoy the place, but I wouldn't dream of telling them what's right for them. Their affairs are their own business, not mine.

That's a healthy attitude in life, I agree, but if all did so, there would no point in this board. It would be a very boring Ukraine thread if only Gilrandir is allowed to post there.

**Pannonian** · 10-17-2016, 13:34

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

That's a healthy attitude in life, I agree, but if all did so, there would no point in this board. It would be a very boring Ukraine thread if only Gilrandir is allowed to post there.

Then there's some place for outsiders to have their say as well. But AFAICS Frag is the most frequent commenter on how things will be better for the UK outside the EU. I've talked before about how the neolibs imposed their theories on Yeltsin's Russia whilst living outside the scope of their effects. I despised them then, and I despise their equivalent now.

**Gilrandir** · 10-17-2016, 14:47

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

It would be a very boring Ukraine thread if only Gilrandir is allowed to post there.

A correction:
It was a very boring Ukraine thread until Gilrandir was allowed to post there.

**Fragony** · 10-17-2016, 13:21

Originally Posted by Pannonian

And Frag will be assuring us that Britain will be fine, even as he is keeping as far away from here as possible. Just like Nigel Farage telling us that the EU is evil and to be kept out of our lives, even as he is making sure that he can bring his kids up in Germany. If Frag is so fond of the idea of living outside the EU, he should move to the UK and put his money where his mouth is.

Very unlikely but I hope the Netherlands follows. Wilders is the only one who wants out but despite probably becoming the biggest party all the parties can still form a rainbow-coalition. Wilders and a few small libertarian parties wants referenda to be binding like in Switserland. Hard, constitution would have to be changed and that's not easy. I will probably be dissapointed if a binding referendum about leaving the EU would be held.

Nice brittish cottage in would be nice by the way, some sheep, nice shire-horse and some ground.