Brexit Thread

[Greyblades]

That depends if you make a differentiation between high and lowlanders and why I said occasionally even friendship, point being england and scotland relations have had thier highs and lows, (the highs usually coinciding with beating up the french) whereas the EU has just been lows and plateaus of ambivilence.

[InsaneApache]

Remainiacs, the gift that just keeps on giving.

After the 'emergency' budget was trashed this morning we have 'St' Bob Geldof sticking two fingers up to working class fishermen worried about their jobs and calls 'em wankers.

Keep it up lads. A multi-millionaire shitting on the little people.

[Elmetiacos]

Remainiacs, the gift that just keeps on giving.
After the 'emergency' budget was trashed this morning we have 'St' Bob Geldof sticking two fingers up to working class fishermen worried about their jobs and calls 'em wankers.
Keep it up lads. A multi-millionaire shitting on the little people.

Quoting from Chairman Farrage's Little Red Book... we all know what a class warrior Farrage is don't we, and how much he's always hated the millionaires and stood up for his fellow workers, just like the rest of that bastion of true Socialism, UKIP. The Brexiteers would be taking Orwellian doublethink to new heights - except of course, that we know they don't mean half of it. Sir Bob pointed out that despite being on the EU Fisheries Committee, Farrage attended one out of 43 of its meetings.

[Furunculus]

Quoting from Chairman Farrage's Little Red Book... we all know what a class warrior Farrage is don't we, and how much he's always hated the millionaires and stood up for his fellow workers, just like the rest of that bastion of true Socialism, UKIP. The Brexiteers would be taking Orwellian doublethink to new heights - except of course, that we know they don't mean half of it. Sir Bob pointed out that despite being on the EU Fisheries Committee, Farrage attended one out of 43 of its meetings.

not all of us brexiteers are ukip people, or, think very highly of nigel's tactics. ;)

[InsaneApache]

Socialists are mentally ill.

[Husar]

Socialists are mentally ill.

It's just depressing to see you write such unfounded, offensive blanket statements...

[Slyspy]

Socialists are mentally ill.

Good work mate, good work.

[Gilrandir]

...dude, go look up how many times we have fought the french, we've done it a lot, even after the 1707 act of union. Scratch that, especially after the 1707 act of union.

The Auld alliance ended in the 1500's.

Dude, I'm aware of at least some of those wars. But you said that the Scots had a special cordiality towards the English when Britain went to war with the French. That was the statement that I doubted. It was certainly wrong in respect of pre-1707 wars. And I wonder what was the Scots participation in post-1707 wars and what was the popular feeling in Scotland when the British crown started a war with their long-time (although not current) allies. I'm sure it was far from unanimous in support of the English.

That would be if you consider the EU as a pact intended to create a federal government, when we joined it was with the understanding it was a free trade agreement and nothing more and with that context it becomes clear that we have been imposed upon incessantly.

Unions may evolve. The rules of evolution are to be discussed along the way. You should have put your foot down when it was being introduced. And you have lived with those changes for quite a time without any apparent (to an outsider) catastrophe. Now when Cameron has wheedled out significant preferences, I see no reason for raising hue and cry.

[Beskar]

Socialists are mentally ill.

I recommend reading the following website, because such a comment is disappointing.
http://www.time-to-change.org.uk/men...lth-and-stigma

Especially for someone who identifies their issues and heritage by the moniker: InsaneApache.

[a completely inoffensive name]

[Gilrandir]

I said occasionally even friendship,

I like it. Two peoples have lived in one country for 400 years and have developed only "occasional friendship". Way to go!

england and scotland relations have had thier highs and lows, (the highs usually coinciding with beating up the french)

Who was beating up the French? Certainly not the Scots - they have their Auld Alliance to revere, so relations between England and Scotland were not friendly at times of English-French wars, notably the Hundred Years War. Unless by "high relations" you mean hostilities.

whereas the EU has just been lows and plateaus of ambivilence.

An arbitrary statement. To my mind, the UK is the most special among the EU states and Cameron managed to negotiate even more concessions from the EU.

[InsaneApache]

Two peoples have lived in one country for 400 years

I think you'll find it's four.

[Greyblades]

I like it. Two peoples have lived in one country for 400 years and have developed only "occasional friendship". Way to go!

Considering that before we became one country we were constantly invading and massacring eachother for giggles, a long term tolerance and occasional friendship is outright loving in comparison. I was also being somewhat facetious, before the scottish independance referendum we havent had a major falling out since the jacobites in the 1700's and that was more a Scottish civil war which the English took the side of the Protestant Lowlanders against the Catholic Highlanders

Who was beating up the French? Certainly not the Scots - they have their Auld Alliance to revere, so relations between England and Scotland were not friendly at times of English-French wars, notably the Hundred Years War. Unless by "high relations" you mean hostilities.

...dude, go look up how many times we have fought the french, we've done it a lot, even after the 1707 act of union. Scratch that, especially after the 1707 act of union.

The Auld alliance ended in the 1500's.

An arbitrary statement. To my mind, the UK is the most special among the EU states and Cameron managed to negotiate even more concessions from the EU.

That would be if you consider the EU as a pact intended to create a federal government, when we joined it was with the understanding it was a free trade agreement and nothing more and with that context it becomes clear that we have been imposed upon incessantly.