Brexit Thread

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That sentence was in the fourth line, I even went back and checked because I had previously not read your post at all.

The sentence he quoted is in the Second line, and only in the edited version because I moved the last line to the first because it was more rhetorically appealing.

Evidently you still havent read it, might I suggest a third attempt:

I do not want a Norway deal, because I dont want Freedom of immigration, I'd love to be in the single market but I dont think it worth that caveat.

My reason for leaving was rooted in me wanting to stop seeing homeless people sleeping on the streets, I dont see that ever happening if we keep allowing in more people than we can employ and house.

We let in so many people, half the time with the intent of putting a higher cost local out of work. I know it is our politicians fault that 200,000-300,000 are let in each year, but I cannot ignore that even if we were to vote in politicians that would lower immigration they would stopped from dropping it low enough because of the EU's freedom of movmement rule. That was a problem that led me to a bigger problem; that even if we were to get our act together our attempts to make things better could be overruled by european beauracrats who clearly do not cater to my concerns and over who I have no influence.

The referendum was a ill planned mess but that was the nature of the thing, we werent asked how we'd do it, just if we wanted to. I knew we'd likely never be asked again; the EU wasnt listening and it was clear this was an attempt to sweep the issue under the rug by a politician who wanted to get a no vote while we were uncertain and use it as an excuse to never talk about it again. We didnt have the luxury of waiting for a Churchill or a Pitt to arise who could lead us through the trouble it would cause; indeed this was our only chance to get it done that didnt require putting in a less palatable political party in charge for 5 years.

So I and 17 million other people took it, through hell and high water. I'm fine with an economic depression when the alternative is having to witness hopeless stagnation every time I leave my home, the comfort and luxury of a first world country doesnt seem worth it if so many of my fellow britons are stuck outside.

Right now we get a yearly net increase of 184,000 EU citizens and 188,000 non EU members settling into the UK, our government in the EU can only refuse the second number so even if we dropped it to zero we are stuck with 184,000 more people employ and house each year

Solving the homeless problem requires having homes and jobs to maintain them available for these homeless to take, proper jobs not 0 hour contracts and unpaid training courses that the government is using to pad out the numbers. Every one of those 184,000 people coming in is one less job for the 1,680,000 unemployed already here and one less house that could have gone to the 50,000 homeless let alone the million or so young people stuck living with their parents. I've already acknowledged that a lot of our issues with the homeless are semi-self inflicted but it doesnt change the fact that such a large rate of immigration is extremely countrproductive and will stifle any move to fix those problems.