Brexit Thread

[Beskar]

Europe Union suffers from a duality. It is an organisation of Eueopean Countries on one hand, but there are times where it is a superstate-lite. The commissars that people like to moan about are appointed by each country to represent their interests, and it is these individual countries which attempt to game the system for their benefit. An example of this from the UK is Margret Thatcher and recently David Cameron, who wanted to change the EU to benefit the UK interest more. The issue is, these arguments from Tony Benn and the left euroseptics is mostly that these systems which provide forums for national interest are corrupt and undemocratic. As such, they require a reform of the EU to actually go follow a mandate of its people like a true state.

The issue is, right wing euroseptics whilst they might use some of these arguments from the left, are in no way wanting the solution to the democratic deficient because they are only wanting things to their own national benefit, thus the current system is actually a creation from the right to ensure they can have national country interests instead of bowing to the interests of the European people.

it is the funny things like that which are used as ammunition in this campaign by some people...they use arguments against the EU but the actual solution is the opposite of what they believe and oppose that too, in a oxymoronic position where the solution is to froth at the mouth on issues the EU is not responsible for, yelling leave, because they read it in the Daily Mail (cue ECHR). Funnily enough, Daily Mail is a source of that influence and corruption from private interest that Mr Benn was on about.