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    Default Re: One more try - UK referendum

    Yes, which is why we have a representary democracy and not a direct one. Blame the Scots for setting the precident.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    There were also more Russians than Ukrainians in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine...
    And more Native Americans than British in America...
    And more Palestinians than Jews in Palestine...
    I was joking, the british didnt use them it to excuse annexing transvaal, they used them invading the cape colony to do that.

    As for leaving a sovereign nation, IIRC your argument was that they were afraid to be incorporated/conquered, not that they were already part and wanted to secede. That's a different starting point, isn't it?
    Yes. Hence why I'm arguing with gilrandir in the other thread over that comparison.

    The UK is already part of the EU, should the EU force the UK to stay using violent means if necessary because one can't just let anyone leave a union to do their own thing?
    The EU isnt a nation state (yet) despite its pretentions continued membership is determined as entirely voluntary, if that were to change and you did try to keep people by force, well, I hope you have a lot of force because there will suddenly be a lot more nations trying to leave.

    If the referendum is close, one can even say that there are a lot of EU citizens in there and we need to make sure they're not oppressed by the nasty British separatist rebels.
    Maybe when we start denying them voting rights, or start landing troops in normandy... again.
    Last edited by Greyblades; 06-04-2016 at 20:26.
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