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    Well the good news is that the fibbing buttered new potato 'Call Me Dave' is finished in either event. The Tories, unlike Labour are ruthless to their leaders who let them down.
    But kick out Cameron and Osborne and who do you get instead? Boris is a con man and outside the capital most people think he's a floppy haired clown who quotes schoolboy Latin and shouts, "Wiff waff". Mad Michael Gove has the charisma of a well thumbed copy of A F L Beeston's Descriptive Grammar of Epigraphic South Arabian. Enter some other former Eton and Oxbridge spin doctor from the back benches? What's the point of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    But kick out Cameron and Osborne and who do you get instead? Boris is a con man and outside the capital most people think he's a floppy haired clown who quotes schoolboy Latin and shouts, "Wiff waff". Mad Michael Gove has the charisma of a well thumbed copy of A F L Beeston's Descriptive Grammar of Epigraphic South Arabian. Enter some other former Eton and Oxbridge spin doctor from the back benches? What's the point of that?
    Boris Johnson is a hero from HIGNFY. That's all his fans need.

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    Look who it is the two self righteous leftists showed up right on time to re-educate us just when the government resorts to anti democratic measures to.ensure a a win for remain or a voiding of the referendum with the convenient 'glitch' in the system. Spending further tax payers money outside of the campaign allowance (FYI the government is for remain) to target 'underrepresented' voters!

    Within the stipulations all votes cast beyond the deadline can be considered voided by the EU
    Senior figures were even said to think that “implausibly high” website traffic at 10.15pm on Tuesday pointed to someone deliberately crashing the system and there were warnings the law change paves the way to legal challenges to a close referendum result.

    Funny you talk about Latin you hypocrite you've got a latin sentence as your signature the irony oh the irony. Most people actually like BORIS than you think he has the highest approval rating of any politician in the UK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizardo View Post
    Look who it is the two self righteous leftists showed up right on time to re-educate us just when the government resorts to anti democratic measures to.ensure a a win for remain or a voiding of the referendum with the convenient 'glitch' in the system. Spending further tax payers money outside of the campaign allowance (FYI the government is for remain) to target 'underrepresented' voters!
    Making sure more people can vote is anti-democratic? This is a telling point - the Brexiters say they are campaigning for democracy, but then their actions speak louder: they try and disenfranchise as many people as they can in order to rely on a low turnout because they think it favours them, while Leave.eu's Arron Banks, forever moaning about unelected Commissioners having power over elected national governments, talks of trying to use the unelected courts to override the elected government. And good old Farrage, who, when there was a second vote in Ireland over the Lisbon Treaty said it was a "travesty of democracy" and the sort of thing Robert Mugabe would do, has said that if his side loses, he wants a second referendum.

    Within the stipulations all votes cast beyond the deadline can be considered voided by the EU
    Senior figures were even said to think that “implausibly high” website traffic at 10.15pm on Tuesday pointed to someone deliberately crashing the system and there were warnings the law change paves the way to legal challenges to a close referendum result.
    Once again it's a conspiracy! Quite how such a legal challenge would work is anyone's guess. It reminds me of the foxhunting nutjobs trying to declare all legislation since 1949 null and void with another such Dungeons & Dragons legal challenge.

    Funny you talk about Latin you hypocrite you've got a latin sentence as your signature the irony oh the irony. Most people actually like BORIS than you think he has the highest approval rating of any politician in the UK
    My signature does not have a Latin sentence in it. Re-read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizardo View Post
    Look who it is the two self righteous leftists showed up right on time to re-educate us just when the government resorts to anti democratic measures to.ensure a a win for remain or a voiding of the referendum with the convenient 'glitch' in the system. Spending further tax payers money outside of the campaign allowance (FYI the government is for remain) to target 'underrepresented' voters!

    Within the stipulations all votes cast beyond the deadline can be considered voided by the EU
    Senior figures were even said to think that “implausibly high” website traffic at 10.15pm on Tuesday pointed to someone deliberately crashing the system and there were warnings the law change paves the way to legal challenges to a close referendum result.

    Funny you talk about Latin you hypocrite you've got a latin sentence as your signature the irony oh the irony. Most people actually like BORIS than you think he has the highest approval rating of any politician in the UK
    What the hell is wrong with getting more people to vote? Everyone in the UK has a single vote, no more no less. Unless in your opinion "underrepresented voters" should remain at home and not vote.

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    Lizardo (King Komodo of the Threatened lizard people) ... will perform a tactical retreat and arrive to open a can of whoop ass by nightfall.....

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    Old men like me can even remember when there was a brawl in the UK parliament, involving Michael Hesseltine picking up the ceremonial mace and threatening to throw it at the Labour Party opposite...
    And that is why the UK should be evicted from the cohort of the civilized European nations. So Brexit is not an opportunity, it is self-flagellation.
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    Gilrandir just wants the UK to float Ukraines corrupt economic system. and perhaps a sparring session with putin.

    Israel the land of god's chosen people, have thrown their lot in with Russia it seems.

    Spaziba Bibi.
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    Gilrandir just wants the UK to float Ukraines corrupt economic system. and perhaps a sparring session with putin.
    If you don't understand the irony of my statement I can do nothing about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    But kick out Cameron and Osborne and who do you get instead? Boris is a con man and outside the capital most people think he's a floppy haired clown who quotes schoolboy Latin and shouts, "Wiff waff". Mad Michael Gove has the charisma of a well thumbed copy of A F L Beeston's Descriptive Grammar of Epigraphic South Arabian. Enter some other former Eton and Oxbridge spin doctor from the back benches? What's the point of that?
    I'm old enough to remember when the Tories voted for Thatcher as leader. She was a rank outsider and came from nowhere. See Corbyn as an example.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmetiacos View Post
    But kick out Cameron and Osborne and who do you get instead? Boris is a con man and outside the capital most people think he's a floppy haired clown who quotes schoolboy Latin and shouts, "Wiff waff". Mad Michael Gove has the charisma of a well thumbed copy of A F L Beeston's Descriptive Grammar of Epigraphic South Arabian. Enter some other former Eton and Oxbridge spin doctor from the back benches? What's the point of that?
    I'd think someone who wanted to remain in the EU would find comfort in the repetitive nature of Tory leadership. Or do you actually believe the desire to remain somehow makes the Tory more virtuous in his conduct.

    A change in the composition of the Tory upper ranks would be hard pressed to make things worse than it already is and retain its majority.
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    I'd think someone who wanted to remain in the EU would find comfort in the repetitive nature of Tory leadership. Or do you actually believe the desire to remain somehow makes the Tory more virtuous in his conduct.

    A change in the composition of the Tory upper ranks would be hard pressed to make things worse than it already is and retain its majority.
    There is never a major change in the composition of the Tory upper ranks, which consist of the country's ruling class, eg. the incident with Cameron and that pig. They form the upper strata of the other parties too, but at least the other parties, Labour especially, residually draw on other sections of our society as well. As for trouble in the Tory PP: there is zero chance of them losing their majority in the Commons, unless they're really, really determined to perform seppuku.

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    I disagree.

    The conservative party is poised to split over the referrendum as it is. The junior doctors strike and the recent controversies over zero hour contracts lead me to believe we building up to a breaking point in the next decade or so where patience with the conservatives will run out.

    Both labour and the conservatives have soiled the bed and unless we were to see major growths of competency in either of them we will see side parties new and old grow by siphoning off dissaffected voters.

    Likely not enough to replace either main party but almost certainly enough to disrupt any single party majority forming in 2020 or 2025.
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    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    There is no comparison between the UK economy and the Norwegian economy; the Norwegian workforce is less than 3 million compared to over 30 million for the UK. The economic activities which earn money for the two nations are starkly different (the public sector in Norway is so large it would no doubt be called Stalinism by many of the Free Market Everything Brexiteers) so whatever was said by whom to whom is irrelevant to the British debate, even if everything this woman from a small agrarian party is true and that the warnings about damage to the Norwegian economy were so greatly exaggerated, it doesn't follow that similar warnings can be ignored vis-à-vis the UK. Because a boy cried wolf doesn't mean it's safe to ignore the bear behind you.
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    t doesn't follow that similar warnings can be ignored vis-à-vis the UK. Because a boy cried wolf doesn't mean it's safe to ignore the bear behind you.
    Not to mention WWIII, likkle dicky birds dying in droves, vote leave and your pension gets it! etc....etc......etc.....etc

    Oh and whatever you do don't mention Turkey.

    Damn and blast I just did!
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

    "The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."

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