Brexit Thread

[Rhyfelwyr]

According to the bookies it's a shoe-in for Remain.

[Greyblades]

Hrm, the bookies make more money the more people bet on the side that loses, still, it is undeniable that victory for either side is not certain.

[Sarmatian]

Screw it, the Brits apparently can't even get out properly.

At least everybody else in the EU now gets minimum 5 years free of British moaning.

[GeneralHankerchief]

How much is the weather likely to impact things? Here in the US, rain and storms and the like usually favors the more passionate/dedicated side, which makes me think that Leave benefits.

Of course, the higher-turnout European countries might scoff at such a notion of something as small as rain getting in the way of people voting.

[Greyblades]

Well we just had 20 celcius with 85% humidity here yesterday and today started with a storm that came close to bursting the local riverbanks, but didnt do smeg for the humidity.

Walking to the polling booth was a strange experience, light rain, huge puddles, washed out gardens of the houses I passed, but wearing a teeshirt, an unbuttoned white shirt and a thin raincoat I was overheating and sweating in a degree I havent felt since I visited Washington DC in the middle of summer.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Heh, yeah, DC in the summer can be its own special flavor of hell sometimes. On the flip side, I remember visiting Belgium and France this time a year ago and being pleasantly surprised with the comfortable temperatures there.

[Greyblades]

There is a special place in hell for the weathermen who get it wrong; it's right next to the ones that got it right.

[InsaneApache]

How much is the weather likely to impact things? Here in the US, rain and storms and the like usually favors the more passionate/dedicated side, which makes me think that Leave benefits.

Of course, the higher-turnout European countries might scoff at such a notion of something as small as rain getting in the way of people voting.

This was asked on the Daily Politics yesterday. It makes no difference apparently.

I too just voted and it was bloody hot. Unfeasibly hot for the UK.

[Pannonian]

This was asked on the Daily Politics yesterday. It makes no difference apparently.

I too just voted and it was bloody hot. Unfeasibly hot for the UK.

From the Guardian.

In London and parts of the south-east many were forced to brave torrential rain and navigated flooded streets to have their say.

Some polling stations were forced to close and relocate as the equivalent of one month’s rain fell overnight in the capital.

Kingston upon Thames council, in south-west London, relocated two polling stations in Chessington and New Malden. Local residents reported that polling stations in Barking and Newham in east London were difficult to access because of flood water.

The weather did not appear to have deterred the determined. Pictures posted on social media showed plenty of queues.

One lightning strike hit less than 500 feet away, going by the less than half a second gap between lightning and thunder. Car alarms outside were also set off by said strike.

[Greyblades]

A vote so important god is forcing an extra day before the tallying so more people can get to the ballot box in time!

[InsaneApache]

Makes one fortunate to live in the grim north then.

[Furunculus]

Screw it, the Brits apparently can't even get out properly.

At least everybody else in the EU now gets minimum 5 years free of British moaning.

lol, that's optimism for you.
what do you think happens if its Remain 52:48?

[Furunculus]

Tomorrow there will be a new EU. Regardless of whether ‘Remain’ or ‘Leave’ wins the day. Because regardless of who wins, it won’t be decisive in either direction.

The question is to whom will we be the better neighbours?

If Leave takes the day we’ll be better neighbours to the Eurozone, they will be able to continue their integration through the single market, as the Five Presidents Report indicated was their preference. We will, genuinely, be better neighbour’s to the core; free to cooperate and collaborate without constantly checking the small print to see if their salvation impinges on our fundamental sovereignty. We would be rather hanging peripheral europe out to dry. Without our support they will find it harder to resist integration at the level of EU27, via the single market. Yes, Brexit might prove to be such a shock that the periphery falls away to EFTA regardless, but that is an unknown. That might allow nations such as Finland and Italy to escape the Eurozone, but again it’s an unknown.

If Remain takes the day we’ll be better neighbours to the non-Eurozone countries, our presence will provide the tide that washes them safely ashore. Right now, there is a legal and moral undertow that is dragging the periphery towards full economic and political integration. Tomorrow would be the start of a process – which may take five years – whereby nations legally obliged to join the euro have the ability to say “no thanks”. Our continued presence with an exemption to ever-closer-union and the referendum lock will force the eurozone to integrate outside of the Single Market. Much as Cameron did with fiskal-union. That won’t come without pain and anguish in the eurozone however, because the urge to use the Single Market will be strong. Tax harmonisation via the SM? No! Fiskal tranfers vias the SM? No! Common liability via the SM? No! Speak slowly and loudly: “Within the eurooozowne!”.

My money is on Remain, 52:48.

The very process of attempting these measures at the level of the Single Market – necessary to make economic union survive and thrive in the future – will spin off peripheral nations into our orbit. The periphery will metamorphose into EFTA 2.0, with Britain as mid-wife. It will be a happier place all round, merely a question of how difficult the process transition proves for those involved.

A core able to integrate, a periphery happy to cooperate. Not a bad result.

[Crandar]

After Obama and Beckham, another infamous celebrity joined Bremain!

[Lizardo]

I'm really interested which way Gibraltar voted.