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    This was really a "cake or death" choice, and one must wonder how stupid you have to be to get that one wrong.
    Says the one guy whose country doesnt have to put up with Brussels... hrm I guess it's not the one guy as that's true for me now too.

    That's because the voters are braindead.
    One vote not going your way and you immediately lose faith in 17 million people.

    Indeed some voters are braindead.

    Even Scotland only pipped us by 2%
    5.3% actually.
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    You've forgotten to mention the Representation of the People Act of 1918, which enfranchised women over the age of 30. Which has as much relevance to the topic as the poll that you linked to.

    EU referendum 2016
    Scotland: 62.0% remain
    London: 59.9% remain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    You've forgotten to mention the Representation of the People Act of 1918, which enfranchised women over the age of 30. Which has as much relevance to the topic as the poll that you linked to.

    EU referendum 2016
    Scotland: 62.0% remain
    London: 59.9% remain
    Ah, sorry, I had thought you had finally calmed down and remembered you were english, silly me.
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    Remember the spain thing?

    Spanish Prime Minister warns Scotland has no right to negotiate with the EU

    Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has warned Scotland has no right to negotiate with the EU.

    The ultra-unionist Conservative declared: "If the the United Kingdom leaves, then Scotland leaves too."

    His intervention came as Nicola Sturgeon prepares for talks with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker in Brussels in an historic diplomatic breakthrough.

    The First Minister has failed to secure a meeting with Donald Tusk, the Polish president of the European Council, while other states, including Germany, signaled they would not commit to talks.

    Mr Rajoy added: "Scotland has no powers to negotiate with the European Union."

    Brussels watchers have long expected Spain to "huff and puff" - as once source said - over Scottish membership of the European Union.

    The president of Catalonia - which has been barred from holding its own independence referendum by Mr Rajoy and his government - on Wednesday declared that the EU's attitude had changed.

    Carles Puigdemont said: "The EU will radically change its idea about the independence of Scotland and Catalonia" because of Brexit.
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    UKIP will need to win enough seats to make the major parties MPs actually vote yes to a Brexit Bill, followed by the Lords agreeing to it.

    Until then the referendum is just another poll.
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    UKIP will need to win enough seats to make the major parties MPs actually vote yes to a Brexit Bill, followed by the Lords agreeing to it.

    Until then the referendum is just another poll.
    A larger proportion of the electorate back Brexit than has backed any government in over half century.

    I don't believe the majority of our MPs will disregard that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    UKIP will need to win enough seats to make the major parties MPs actually vote yes to a Brexit Bill, followed by the Lords agreeing to it.

    Until then the referendum is just another poll.
    ....and then political reality creeps in....
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    ....and then political reality creeps in....
    Which is why the referendum is just another poll.

    Yes most modern populist politicians chase polls. However they do not always do what the citizen voter wants.
    A) Is there a delta in referendum particaption and normal votes? 72% vs 65%. So 10% aren't voting for an MP to do something.
    B) corporate interests - campaigns cost money...
    C) party interests - half a dozen of A six of B
    D) national interests - aka leadership despite the above
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