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    The Black Senior Member Papewaio's Avatar
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    UKIP will need to win enough seats to make the major parties MPs actually vote yes to a Brexit Bill, followed by the Lords agreeing to it.

    Until then the referendum is just another poll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    UKIP will need to win enough seats to make the major parties MPs actually vote yes to a Brexit Bill, followed by the Lords agreeing to it.

    Until then the referendum is just another poll.
    A larger proportion of the electorate back Brexit than has backed any government in over half century.

    I don't believe the majority of our MPs will disregard that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    UKIP will need to win enough seats to make the major parties MPs actually vote yes to a Brexit Bill, followed by the Lords agreeing to it.

    Until then the referendum is just another poll.
    ....and then political reality creeps in....
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    ....and then political reality creeps in....
    Which is why the referendum is just another poll.

    Yes most modern populist politicians chase polls. However they do not always do what the citizen voter wants.
    A) Is there a delta in referendum particaption and normal votes? 72% vs 65%. So 10% aren't voting for an MP to do something.
    B) corporate interests - campaigns cost money...
    C) party interests - half a dozen of A six of B
    D) national interests - aka leadership despite the above
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    Which is why the referendum is just another poll.

    Yes most modern populist politicians chase polls. However they do not always do what the citizen voter wants.
    A) Is there a delta in referendum particaption and normal votes? 72% vs 65%. So 10% aren't voting for an MP to do something.
    B) corporate interests - campaigns cost money...
    C) party interests - half a dozen of A six of B
    D) national interests - aka leadership despite the above
    Worst of all, one of the politicians was actively encouraging the voters to disregard the advice of experts, and by extension to disregard evidence and rational argument. "I think this country has had enough of experts". I think this is fundamentally the most irresponsible and damaging line I've heard a politician utter in my lifetime.

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