Brexit Thread

**I of the Storm** · 07-22-2016, 08:04

Doubtful. From your point of view it may seem so, but the rest of the EU "disagrees with that assessment" (Greyblades 2016).

**Pannonian** · 07-22-2016, 08:16

Originally Posted by I of the Storm

Doubtful. From your point of view it may seem so, but the rest of the EU "disagrees with that assessment" (Greyblades 2016).

"If you don't give us what we want then we'll leave."
"You've already left."
"Err...then we'll...err..."

The logic of Brexiters surpasseth understanding.

**Greyblades** · 07-22-2016, 08:21

Shouldnt that be: "If you dont give us what we want then we wont leave."?

**Pannonian** · 07-22-2016, 08:30

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Shouldnt that be: "If you dont give us what we want then we wont leave."

Frankfurt, Paris and other cities will be chipping away at London's financial services while all this is going on. The financial services that is the backbone of Britain's economy. They don't need us to leave pronto, although it would be more convenient. The uncertainty hurts both sides, but it hurts us more as we're the smaller economy. The EU also has the advantage in that investors know the position they will finish with: no common market access without free movement of labour. Whatever happens, investors in the EU will know there will still be a common market with free movement of capital and labour. Investors have no idea what kind of deal the UK will end up with, particularly as the voters were insistent that controlling immigration is the key part of their decision. Even if they don't pull out immediately, I expect investment in the UK to stop pending any future deal, especially if the UK government takes the same view as you do.

**Greyblades** · 07-22-2016, 08:38

I do not share your faith in the stability of the EU, I dont think the EU does either.

**Pannonian** · 07-22-2016, 08:56

Originally Posted by Greyblades

I do not share your faith in the stability of the EU, I dont think the EU does either.

I trust that the EU will be reasonably stable. However, I know that the UK will not be stable.

**I of the Storm** · 07-22-2016, 09:08

Originally Posted by Pannonian

"If you don't give us what we want then we'll leave."
"You've already left."
"Err...then we'll...err..."

The logic of Brexiters surpasseth understanding.

Brussels' indoctrination made us become feeble-minded, is all.

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Shouldnt that be: "If you dont give us what we want then we wont leave."?

Good! I'm glad we could sort this out.

I don't see how May can win this. If she thinks she must drive a hard line on the free movement issue, the market access deal won't live up to expectations in the UK and vice versa.
I can't see any leverage. I see a child that is asked to let go of a toy that it announced to not want it anymore because silly and now only wants to let go of the toy if it can keep it at the same time.