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    What is your PhD, still Medieval Studies? I'm surprised, as across the board the professorship (if not the doctoral base) should be representative of the general population in terms of those leanings, plus a relative rightward-lean in that sort of discipline.
    You think because we study medieval Christianity we're all medieval Christians?
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    Nah. You're not Catholic.
    Vitiate Man.

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    Oi it's InsaneApache not Apache!
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    I hate memorizing things sitting somewhere with a book or other reading material
    You lie down. Learning will become more bearable (unless you go to sleep).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    You lie down. Learning will become more bearable (unless you go to sleep).
    Usually that leads to said sleep mode...


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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    Oi it's InsaneApache not Apache!
    OK Insane, you claim to be educated so work this one out , its very simple.
    How can you claim that as you are not a tory you don't know about the widely held view that they have a sneering contempt for the working class, yet you describe sneeering contempt for the working class as a traditional tory trait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legs View Post
    yet you describe sneeering contempt for the working class as a traditional tory trait?
    Didn't he say that in reply to you?

    As I understood his post, he said you have sneering contempt for the working class because you basically said they believe everything the politicians told them. That's even what I said in my reiteration that you quoted without correcting that part. So unless you're a Tory, we have now entered full misunderstanding mode.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Didn't he say that in reply to you?

    As I understood his post, he said you have sneering contempt for the working class because you basically said they believe everything the politicians told them. That's even what I said in my reiteration that you quoted without correcting that part. So unless you're a Tory, we have now entered full misunderstanding mode.
    He's projecting.

    IA referred to what he sees at Legs' disdain for the working class, but because in Legs' mind this is a fault evidenced exclusively by the Right (and Tories) IA must be referring to himself, because IA is a Tory. IA has said he is not a Tory but because he's to the Right of Legs politically in Legs' mind he must be a Tory.

    Basically, Legs is being closed minded and prejudiced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    He's projecting.

    IA referred to what he sees at Legs' disdain for the working class, but because in Legs' mind this is a fault evidenced exclusively by the Right (and Tories) IA must be referring to himself, because IA is a Tory. IA has said he is not a Tory but because he's to the Right of Legs politically in Legs' mind he must be a Tory.

    Basically, Legs is being closed minded and prejudiced.
    Young man stop making yourself look like that.
    When you are so completely lost it is perhaps better to stay quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Didn't he say that in reply to you?

    As I understood his post, he said you have sneering contempt for the working class because you basically said they believe everything the politicians told them. That's even what I said in my reiteration that you quoted without correcting that part. So unless you're a Tory, we have now entered full misunderstanding mode.
    I can see why you are lost.
    "sneering contempt for the working class" is the key.
    You are only looking at one example of that phrase.
    To exit misunderstanding mode find that phrase alluded to as a tory trait, identify Insane as the person who described it as such and then proceed normally.
    Its quite easy, you don't even have to leave this referendum topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legs View Post
    I can see why you are lost.
    "sneering contempt for the working class" is the key.
    You are only looking at one example of that phrase.
    To exit misunderstanding mode find that phrase alluded to as a tory trait, identify Insane as the person who described it as such and then proceed normally.
    Its quite easy, you don't even have to leave this referendum topic
    I assume you are talking about this then?
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053705276

    In which case I may have completely misinterpreted IA's last statement of the sort and noone bothered to correct me.
    I shall go cry in a corner over the time wasted and then consider whether a return to this topic is worth even more of my limited lifetime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Legs View Post
    OK Insane, you claim to be educated so work this one out , its very simple.
    How can you claim that as you are not a tory you don't know about the widely held view that they have a sneering contempt for the working class, yet you describe sneeering contempt for the working class as a traditional tory trait?
    Emily Thornberry? aka Lady Nugee, Baroness Shami Chakrabarti?

    Just to be clear, I was pointing out the contempt that the 'elites' have towards the ordinary guy in the street. I used the term 'tory squire' as an epiphet. The Labour Party has more than enough bigots to be going on with.

    I seem to remember that we had a resident socialist here a few years ago that just couldn't get his head around the fact that any working class person not inclined to vote Labour must be a tory.

    Sad.
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    "Unless asking him to quote primary sources in an argument over scripture has just engendered an irrational hatred of me specifically." I sympathise.

    "Do we need someone to shout "to the barricades!" or have somebody post a link to a good rendition of the "internationale?" I heard that initially, the Internationale (Eugène Pottier being the author) was meant to be on the lyric of the Marseillaise. Then Pierre Degeyter wrote the lyrics...
    One of the families (I think Pottier) tried to get the copy rights paid at the time of USSR, but failed to get the monies. Now, I can't guarantee/veracity the reality of all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    ..."Do we need someone to shout "to the barricades!" or have somebody post a link to a good rendition of the "internationale?" I heard that initially, the Internationale (Eugène Pottier being the author) was meant to be on the lyric of the Marseillaise. Then Pierre Degeyter wrote the lyrics...
    One of the families (I think Pottier) tried to get the copy rights paid at the time of USSR, but failed to get the monies. Now, I can't guarantee/veracity the reality of all this.
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    Oi it's InsaneApache not Apache!
    How rude of him to presume you're not insane :).

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    Do the Brexiters here support the idea of making companies list their foreign workers?

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    Not if it is what it sounds like if you say it like that, Want to know some more

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    Not if it is what it sounds like if you say it like that, Want to know some more
    Businesses react to Conservative plans for listing foreign workers

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